selurgniman

I would *love* to use the installer, unfortunately a pretty major use case was missed while building it . As I suspect is the case with *many* forge users, I only update forge when vanilla updates or rarely when a mod specifies a particular minimum build. So...I'll be updating the libraries with every download of forge.

Because thats 20-90MB of redundant data in EVERY download that 90% of users wouldnt need at all Why would 90% of forge users not need these libraries? What changed in forge that there's now an additional 20-90MB of libraries required? I would redownload the libraries every time I updated forge anyway because I would have no idea if there were an added/removed/changed dependency. Of course all this would be moot if there were just a way to run the universal installer on a headless machine. Your distribution model is broken if you require your users to go manually find a copy of libraries you depend on.

So many question... Why would you not just bundle the required libraries with the jar? Why wouldn't there just be a way to use the forge installer via command line switches? If the vanilla minecraft server can work without copying client files to the server why doesn't forge? Is it really a "universal" library if it requires you to copy client files to make it work?

I can't figure out a headless way to use the installer so I'm trying to get forge up and running on a headless linux machine the same way I've done hundreds of times. Vanilla runs perfectly fine. I have no forge log to attach since this is forge failing instantly and it's not generating one. Execution commands I've tried: java -jar minecraftforge-universal-1.6.1-8.9.0.768.jar java -cp minecraft_server.jar:minecraftforge-universal-1.6.1-8.9.0.768.jar cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.ServerLaunchWrapper This is the result of either of the above commands: We appear to be missing one or more essential library files. You will need to add them to your server before FML and Forge will run successfully.java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.ServerLaunchWrapper.run(ServerLaunchWrapper.java:30) at cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.ServerLaunchWrapper.main(ServerLaunchWrapper.java:17)