i couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
thanks i appreciate the help.
i decided to edit this post since there was only 2 lines and i came out of this problem with some very interesting news i tried so many times to get forge 789 working because at the current time that's the only version optifine is compatible with,
so here's the strangest thing of this problem even though its compatible with optifine it just would not load at all i actually lost count on how many times i tried to get it working with and without installer but just a month before this started happening it actually worked just fine with optifine i had some mods installed and all was well the problem started 2 weeks before i posted my problem seeking answers and help from anyone thank you ( robin4002 ) however i did try the version of forge 790 same problem 2 failures at the end of Minecraft loading the information in the development console so i gave it all i had i said a payer and bob's your uncle forge worked with version 817.