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Is there any way to add a second overworld dimension that uses a specific seed that is NOT the same seed as the main overworld?


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Basically the title. I'd like to create another overworld and add it as a custom dimension in my world. Is that is possible, how would one go about doing that, or where might a guide or video or something to help be located?

I've tried adding a dimension via datapack, but the ability to define a separate seed for other dimensions was apparently removed some time ago. I've also looked at other dimension mods like multiverse, but they are all stuck in older versions of MC or still pull the save's main seed to generate the world.

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Code I used in the datapack (It still used the default overall seed and not the specified one, it was a carbon copy of the main overworld):

{        
  "type": "minecraft:overworld",
  "generator": {
	"biome_source": {
	  "preset": "minecraft:overworld",
	  "type": "minecraft:multi_noise"
	},
	"seed": 6487992,
	"settings": "minecraft:overworld",
	"type": "minecraft:noise"
  }
}

 

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15 hours ago, LogicSequence said:

Basically the title. I'd like to create another overworld and add it as a custom dimension in my world. Is that is possible, how would one go about doing that, or where might a guide or video or something to help be located?

Use the same exact properties as the overworld stuff for the dimension files.

15 hours ago, LogicSequence said:

I've tried adding a dimension via datapack, but the ability to define a separate seed for other dimensions was apparently removed some time ago. I've also looked at other dimension mods like multiverse, but they are all stuck in older versions of MC or still pull the save's main seed to generate the world.

Yes, I believe that feature was removed.

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10 hours ago, ChampionAsh5357 said:

Use the same exact properties as the overworld stuff for the dimension files.

Yes, I believe that feature was removed.

Right, i can add another overworld dimension, an exact copy of the overworld using the same seed, but i'd like to have an overworld with a different seed, or to copy the overworld from another save. Basically, is there a way around forcing the game to use the same seed as the primary overworld when it generates the second overworld dimension? Edit this or that file, replace these files, anything?

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18 hours ago, ChampionAsh5357 said:

The best I can think of is to not use the overworld type and remake the overworld with its biomes in a custom minecraft:noise generator.

Would that force it to use a different seed when it generated the world though? Even if i copy all the biomes and settings perfectly, if it doesn't use a different seed to generate the terrain the actual map will be the same, right?

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4 hours ago, LogicSequence said:

Would that force it to use a different seed when it generated the world though? Even if i copy all the biomes and settings perfectly, if it doesn't use a different seed to generate the terrain the actual map will be the same, right?

Technically since it's a different generator, it should handle the random slightly differently such that the results are not exactly the same as the overworld. You could always try to verify it though.

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19 hours ago, ChampionAsh5357 said:

Technically since it's a different generator, it should handle the random slightly differently such that the results are not exactly the same as the overworld. You could always try to verify it though.

Ok, but would it work with a SPECIFIC different seed, i'm not trying for a random seed, i'm trying for a different yet specific seed that isn't the same as the main overworld?

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5 hours ago, LogicSequence said:

Ok, but would it work with a SPECIFIC different seed, i'm not trying for a random seed, i'm trying for a different yet specific seed that isn't the same as the main overworld?

Ah, apologies for the misunderstanding. Most likely not. If you wanted to do that, you would most likely need to remake the entire chunk generator to take in a specific seed, and even then you would need to verify that the seed would still correspond to the wanted result.

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 fabric-rendering-data-attachment-v1: Fabric Rendering Data Attachment (v1) 0.3.48+73761d2ed1             fabric-rendering-fluids-v1: Fabric Rendering Fluids (v1) 3.1.6+b5597344d1             fabric-rendering-v0: Fabric Rendering (v0) 1.1.71+df3654b3d1             fabric-rendering-v1: Fabric Rendering (v1) 5.0.5+df16efd0d1             fabric-resource-conditions-api-v1: Fabric Resource Conditions API (v1) 4.3.0+8dc279b1d1             fabric-resource-loader-v0: Fabric Resource Loader (v0) 1.3.0+56599129d1             fabric-screen-api-v1: Fabric Screen API (v1) 2.0.24+b5597344d1             fabric-screen-handler-api-v1: Fabric Screen Handler API (v1) 1.3.86+b5597344d1             fabric-sound-api-v1: Fabric Sound API (v1) 1.0.23+6573ed8cd1             fabric-transfer-api-v1: Fabric Transfer API (v1) 5.1.16+3dccd343d1             fabric-transitive-access-wideners-v1: Fabric Transitive Access Wideners (v1) 6.1.0+176f9036d1         fabric-language-kotlin: Fabric Language Kotlin 1.12.0+kotlin.2.0.10             org_jetbrains_kotlin_kotlin-reflect: kotlin-reflect 2.0.10             org_jetbrains_kotlin_kotlin-stdlib: kotlin-stdlib 2.0.10             org_jetbrains_kotlin_kotlin-stdlib-jdk7: kotlin-stdlib-jdk7 2.0.10             org_jetbrains_kotlin_kotlin-stdlib-jdk8: kotlin-stdlib-jdk8 2.0.10             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_atomicfu-jvm: atomicfu-jvm 0.25.0             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-coroutines-core-jvm: kotlinx-coroutines-core-jvm 1.8.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-coroutines-jdk8: kotlinx-coroutines-jdk8 1.8.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-datetime-jvm: kotlinx-datetime-jvm 0.6.0             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-io-bytestring-jvm: kotlinx-io-bytestring-jvm 0.5.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-io-core-jvm: kotlinx-io-core-jvm 0.5.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-cbor-jvm: kotlinx-serialization-cbor-jvm 1.7.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-core-jvm: kotlinx-serialization-core-jvm 1.7.1             org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-json-jvm: kotlinx-serialization-json-jvm 1.7.1         fabricloader: Fabric Loader 0.16.5             mixinextras: MixinExtras 0.4.1         fallingleaves: Falling Leaves 1.16.2         ferritecore: FerriteCore 7.0.0         forcecloseworldloadingscreen: kennytv's epic force close loading screen mod for Fabric 2.2.2         immediatelyfast: ImmediatelyFast 1.2.20+1.21.1             net_lenni0451_reflect: Reflect 1.3.4         indium: Indium 1.0.34+mc1.21         iris: Iris 1.7.3+mc1.21             io_github_douira_glsl-transformer: glsl-transformer 2.0.1             org_anarres_jcpp: jcpp 1.4.14             org_antlr_antlr4-runtime: antlr4-runtime 4.13.1         java: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 21         ksyxis: Ksyxis 1.3.2         lithium: Lithium 0.12.7         minecraft: Minecraft 1.21         modernfix: ModernFix 5.19.1+mc1.21         modmenu: Mod Menu 11.0.1         nvidium: Nvidium 0.2.9-beta         obsidianui: ObsidianUI 0.2.7+mc1.21         placeholder-api: Placeholder API 2.4.1+1.21         plasmovoice: Plasmo Voice 2.0.10             aopalliance_aopalliance: aopalliance 1.0             com_google_inject_guice: guice 5.0.1             javax_inject_javax_inject: javax.inject 1         reeses-sodium-options: Reese's Sodium Options 1.7.3+mc1.21         rrls: Remove Reloading Screen 5.0.7+mc1.21-fabric         ryoamiclights: RyoamicLights 0.2.9+mc1.21         showmeyourskin: Show Me Your Skin! 1.11.3+1.21             cardinal-components-base: Cardinal Components API (base) 6.1.0             cardinal-components-entity: Cardinal Components API (entities) 6.1.0         skinlayers3d: 3d-Skin-Layers 1.6.7         sodium: Sodium 0.5.11+mc1.21         sodium-extra: Sodium Extra 0.5.7+mc1.21             caffeineconfig: CaffeineConfig 1.3.0+1.17         spark: spark 1.10.73             fabric-permissions-api-v0: fabric-permissions-api 0.3.1         symbol-chat: Symbol Chat 1.21-1.2.7         vmp: Very Many Players 0.2.0+beta.7.163+1.21         voicechat: Simple Voice Chat 1.21.1-2.5.22         wakes: Wakes 0.3.0+1.21.1             blue_endless_jankson: jankson 1.2.2             com_github_jdiemke_delaunay-triangulator_delaunaytriangulator: DelaunayTriangulator 1.0.0             satin: Satin 2.0.0         xaerominimap: Xaero's Minimap 24.4.0         yet_another_config_lib_v3: YetAnotherConfigLib 3.5.0+1.21-fabric             com_twelvemonkeys_common_common-image: common-image 3.10.0             com_twelvemonkeys_common_common-io: common-io 3.10.0             com_twelvemonkeys_common_common-lang: common-lang 3.10.0             com_twelvemonkeys_imageio_imageio-core: imageio-core 3.10.0             com_twelvemonkeys_imageio_imageio-metadata: imageio-metadata 3.10.0             com_twelvemonkeys_imageio_imageio-webp: imageio-webp 3.10.0             org_quiltmc_parsers_gson: gson 0.2.1             org_quiltmc_parsers_json: json 0.2.1         zoomify: Zoomify 2.14.0+1.21             com_akuleshov7_ktoml-core-jvm: ktoml-core-jvm 0.5.1     Loaded Shaderpack: (off)     Launched Version: fabric-loader-0.16.5-1.21     Launcher name: minecraft-launcher     Backend library: LWJGL version 3.3.3-snapshot     Backend API: AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics GL version 3.2.0 Core Profile Context 22.20.44.221025, ATI Technologies Inc.     Window size: 854x480     GFLW Platform: win32     GL Caps: Using framebuffer using OpenGL 3.2     GL debug messages:      Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'fabric'     Universe: 400921fb54442d18     Type: Client (map_client.txt)     Graphics mode: fast     Render Distance: 9/9 chunks     Resource Packs: vanilla, fabric, betterf3, betterthirdperson, boatiview (incompatible), bobby, c2me, caffeineconfig, capes, cardinal-components-base, cardinal-components-entity, cicada, cloth-config, dynamic_fps, ears, enhancedblockentities, entity_texture_features, entityculling, explosiveenhancement, fabric-api, fabric-api-base, fabric-api-lookup-api-v1, fabric-biome-api-v1, fabric-block-api-v1, fabric-block-view-api-v2, fabric-blockrenderlayer-v1, fabric-client-tags-api-v1, fabric-command-api-v1, fabric-command-api-v2, fabric-commands-v0, fabric-content-registries-v0, fabric-convention-tags-v1, fabric-convention-tags-v2, fabric-crash-report-info-v1, fabric-data-attachment-api-v1, fabric-data-generation-api-v1, fabric-dimensions-v1, fabric-entity-events-v1, fabric-events-interaction-v0, fabric-game-rule-api-v1, fabric-item-api-v1, fabric-item-group-api-v1, fabric-key-binding-api-v1, fabric-keybindings-v0, fabric-language-kotlin, fabric-lifecycle-events-v1, fabric-loot-api-v2, fabric-loot-api-v3, fabric-message-api-v1, fabric-model-loading-api-v1, fabric-networking-api-v1, fabric-object-builder-api-v1, fabric-particles-v1, fabric-recipe-api-v1, fabric-registry-sync-v0, fabric-renderer-api-v1, fabric-renderer-indigo, fabric-renderer-registries-v1, fabric-rendering-data-attachment-v1, fabric-rendering-fluids-v1, fabric-rendering-v0, fabric-rendering-v1, fabric-resource-conditions-api-v1, fabric-resource-loader-v0, fabric-screen-api-v1, fabric-screen-handler-api-v1, fabric-sound-api-v1, fabric-transfer-api-v1, fabric-transitive-access-wideners-v1, fabricloader, fallingleaves, forcecloseworldloadingscreen, immediatelyfast, indium, iris, lithium, modernfix (incompatible), modmenu, nvidium, obsidianui, placeholder-api, plasmovoice, reeses-sodium-options, rrls, ryoamiclights, satin, showmeyourskin, skinlayers3d, sodium, sodium-extra, spark (incompatible), symbol-chat, vmp, voicechat, wakes, xaerominimap (incompatible), yet_another_config_lib_v3 (incompatible), zoomify, file/iconsv.1.8 (1).zip (incompatible), file/No Pumpkin Blur 1.20-1.20.1.zip (incompatible), file/Default-Dark-Mode-1.20-2023.6.0.zip (incompatible), file/CalvinsSinisterSculk[1.20.4][v1.0].zip (incompatible)     Current Language: ru_ru     Locale: ru_RU     System encoding: Cp1251     File encoding: UTF-8     CPU: 4x AMD Ryzen 3 4300U with Radeon Graphics 
    • I have no idea - maybe a fabric mod, but just Connector is mentioned
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