Nice, so that's it. This is too much but at least you show some proof (y)
And I think, people in this forum should declare at least 1 of other people mistake before back-talking.
Also, i'm very triggered by the way you just said "No no abc is not good" but not show the author of this topic the answer. The general i'm seeing in this forum is alway
"No no don't follow abc they're very bad, you should learn Java first and then learn Forge, search for relative topic,..." <= This sentence here not helpful at all, they're just only care about the answer. So If I have a link of a good tutorial, why not share them instead of talking like that?
That's my reason...