How is Forge allowed?

Posted June 12, 20214 yr

Hey everyone,

I just wondered, because I am working on a mod with the MCP right now, how does Forge handle the licensing with Minecraft?
How is Forge allowed?

I would never be able to publish my modification, so I wanted to know what Forge did different.
Is there a special contract with Mojang/Microsoft?
A loophole that allows it somehow?

Thanks for the answers, that would be really interesting to know!

Quote

June 12, 20214 yr

One of the maintainers is a Mojang employee I believe

Quote

June 12, 20214 yr

10 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

The Forge Git repository only contains patches to the decompiled Minecraft source code. In very simplified terms this means "remove this line from this file" or "add this code here". It does not contain the decompiled game source code.

When the Forge installer is built, these patch files are converted to binary patches to the compiled code, these binary patch files are then shipped with the installer. As such the installer again does not contain any Minecraft code. When you then run the installer it takes the vanilla Minecraft jar (or downloads it from Mojang's servers if you don't have it) and then patches it, locally. As such, no Minecraft code is ever shipped by Forge.

When you are making a mod using the MDK a similar thing happens. The MDK will download Minecraft and decompile it on your local machine. The MDK does not contain Minecraft's code, only the instructions for your computer to get to it.

This is a very high level overview, there are a lot of intricacies to this process.

This is inaccurate and has nothing to do with it.

if you said its innacurate its a mojang emplyee of some kind right?

Quote

June 12, 20214 yr

34 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

The Forge Git repository only contains patches to the decompiled Minecraft source code. In very simplified terms this means "remove this line from this file" or "add this code here". It does not contain the decompiled game source code.

When the Forge installer is built, these patch files are converted to binary patches to the compiled code, these binary patch files are then shipped with the installer. As such the installer again does not contain any Minecraft code. When you then run the installer it takes the vanilla Minecraft jar (or downloads it from Mojang's servers if you don't have it) and then patches it, locally. As such, no Minecraft code is ever shipped by Forge.

When you are making a mod using the MDK a similar thing happens. The MDK will download Minecraft and decompile it on your local machine. The MDK does not contain Minecraft's code, only the instructions for your computer to get to it.

This is a very high level overview, there are a lot of intricacies to this process.

This is inaccurate and has nothing to do with it.

This explains it very well to me, much appreciated!
So there is a way after all! (for the time being)

Quote

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.

Reply to this topic...

https://forums.minecraftforge.net/topic/101419-how-is-forge-allowed/

Followers

Go to topic listing

IPS spam blocked by CleanTalk.

Announcements

Cobblemon invalid player data

Hi everyone, I keep getting "invalid player data" when trying to log onto my friend's server. Log analysis says to remove Night Lights and ImmediatelyFast, but that doesn't work. Any insight is appreciated

Log: https://mclo.gs/uj6pMkd

By CobbleDN · Posted 1 hour ago1 hr
Bad pathfinding for big mobs (1.21.1)

I've struggled with this for way too long now, so I have decided to ask for some assistance here because there is almost no information about this online.

I made a hostile mob and I built it like this:
public static final Supplier<EntityType<Bunyip>> BUNYIP = ENTITY_TYPES.register("bunyip" , () -> EntityType.Builder. of(Bunyip::new, MobCategory.MONSTER).sized(3f, 2.5f).eyeHeight(1.75f).build("bunyip"));

However, I have discovered that a BoundingBox of 3 is too big for the vanilla pathfinding to work well. In fact, anything bigger than a block will not work well. This is especially noticeable when having it chase a player in a negative X and/or negative Z direction. The mob starts spinning, walking backwards, walking diagonally, etc.

I am using the Goal system:
protected void registerGoals() { super.registerGoals(); this.goalSelector.addGoal(1, new MeleeAttackGoal(this, 1.25, true)); this.targetSelector.addGoal(2, new NearestAttackableTargetGoal<>(this, Player.class, true, true)); }

This does not seem to be a me issue as the ravager, one of the biggest vanilla mobs, also struggles with proper pathfinding. I am a bit familiar with how Minecraft's pathfinding works, but not enough to make a pathfinding system from scratch (or at least not in a reasonable amount of time). Is there any way to fix this with some tweaks or will I have to make a custom pathfinding system?

By VictorEvers · Posted 8 hours ago8 hr
New Forum Design/Update: Issues and Suggestions

Unfortunately, it seems that Invision has decided that everything is locked down and no longer customizable.
Their attitude to anyone who wants to edit anything is 'Just accept it we know best and screw you for even insinuating that you want to customize your own site'
So there isn't much we can do about the layout of actual features.
Best bet for the editor is that psudo markdown works, so typing ` around words make code blocks.
Only options is to start writing bespoke modifications to the forum's php code itself, which I really don't want to do.
I would of stayed on v4 but the version of PHP that it supports is going EOL and Invision has stated they have no intentions of upgrading it.
They also removed the central community for finding plugins/community addons.
Overall it is my feeling that they are intentionally trying to kill off self-hosting communities by removing features and locking things down, in an effort to force everyone into using their paid hosting services.

My HOPE is that someone in the overall forum community will write an exporter for Invision to something like SMF. Which is what we were originally on before old team members decided enterprise software is better.

By LexManos · 12 hours ago12 hr
Orbital strike cannon fishing rod mod

Yes i will be uploading the mod to curse forge and modrinth you can already find a early build

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/wemmbus-style-orbital-strike-cannon
https://modrinth.com/mod/wemmbus-style-orbital-strike-cannon

hopefully 1.21.5 fabric will be out by the weekend also please note that there is a lot more features im adding like cubic metres orbital arrow cannon type shot (basically a stab shot but with insta kill arrows)

@JayKing014
@Astoxy
@Astoxy
@JayKing014

By FoxyWoxy · Yesterday at 03:38 AM1 day
Orbital strike cannon fishing rod mod

@FoxyWoxy do you potentially have an estimated time for fabric 1.21.5 and what will it be posted on (modrinth, etc.)

By JayKing014 · Yesterday at 12:36 AM1 day

Sign In

How is Forge allowed?

Featured Replies

Join the conversation

Posts

Cobblemon invalid player data

Bad pathfinding for big mobs (1.21.1)

New Forum Design/Update: Issues and Suggestions

Orbital strike cannon fishing rod mod

Orbital strike cannon fishing rod mod

Who's Online (See full list)

Important Information

Account

Navigation

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)

Chrome (Desktop)

Safari (iOS 16.4+)

Safari (macOS)

Edge (Android)

Edge (Desktop)

Firefox (Android)

Firefox (Desktop)