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Hello, I recently created a modpack for me and a few friends to play over the holidays, I'm having trouble optimising the pack as something is causing lag. My computer can run it with 30-150FPS, when it can run modpacks like Skyfactory 4 with over 500 FPS, my pack only has 94 mods compared to Skyfactory 4 which has over 200. So I'm just curious as to how I can improve this.

 

Here's a list of the mods and versions:
 

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applied energistics 2 rv6 stable 6

Baubles 1.5.2BetterFps 1.4.8

BloodMagic 2.4.0-102

Bonsaitrees b144

Botania r1.10-361

BrandonsCore 2.4.10.198

Buildcraft 7.99.24.1

Carpenter's Blocks 3.4.0-poc.5

ChickenChunks 2.4.1.73

Chisel 0.2.1.35

CodeChickenLib 3.2.2.353

CoFHCore 4.6.2.25

CoFHWorld 1.3.0.6

CTM 0.3.3.22

Cucumber 1.1.3

Cyclic 1.19.7

Decocraft 2.6.2

Draconic Evolution 2.3.21.342

EnderCore 0.5.57

EnderIO 5.0.43

EnderStorage 2.4.5.135

extrautils2 1.9.9

Extreme Reactors 0.4.5.65

foamfix 0.10.5

forestry 5.8.2.374

Forgelin 1.8.2

ForgeMultipart 2.6.1.81

GalacticraftCore 4.0.2.210

Galacticraft Planets 4.0.2.210

Gravestone 1.10.1

Guide API 2.1.8.63

Hats 7.0.2

Headcrumbs 2.0.5.17

Hwyla 1.8.26-B41

iChunUtil 7.2.0

ImmersiveEngineering 0.12-89

Industrial craft 2 2.8.133-ex112

industrialforegoing 1.12.12-236

inventory tweaks 1.64+dev.146

jei 4.15.0.276

Journeymap 5.5.5b5

Mantle 1.3.3.49

mcjtylib 3.5.0

Mekanism 9.7.2.373

MFFS 4.0.1.0

Micdoodlecore 4.0.2.210

Modular Powersuits 1.0.40

MrTJPCore 2.1.3.35

Mystical Agriculture 1.7.5

Natura 4.3.2.66

Numina 1.0.37

Pam's Harvest Craft (7mm kidney stone update)

plustic 7.0.6.1

Project Red 4.9.1.92-Base

PTRLib 1.0.4

Quantumflux 2.0.18

railcraft 12.0.0

Redstone flux 2.1.0.6

rftools 7.70

SimpleStorageNetwork 1.7.4

TConstruct 2.12.0.135

Tesla Core Lib 1.0.15

Thaumcraft 6.1.BETA26

Thermal Dynamics 2.5.4.18

Thermal Expanmsion 5.5.3.41

Thermal Foundation 2.6.2.26

Tinker Tool Leveling 1.1.0

Vanilla Fix 1.0.10-99

Zerocore 0.1.2.8

 

 

If you like I also have the pack available for download, just ask for the link. I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with clashes between any of the mods mentioned, and if so, how to potentially fix them. Thanks in advance.

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9 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

Framerates up to 500FPS are ridiculous and make no sense. There is no point optimizing for them.

500 for Skyfactory 4, which has 220 mods.

 

My pack has 94 and can only run at 100FPS and even then it has a lag spike every 15 seconds.

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3 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

100FPS is just fine. You (most likely) have a 60 Hz Monitor. It cannot display anything beyond 60. And running at more than 60 simply causes screen tearing.

Lag spikes on the other hand are something else and can often be caused by Java's Garbage Collection. What are your startup parameters?

I'm running the pack with 6GB currently, it only reaches 45% ingame and 50% when loading the pack. 

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1 minute ago, diesieben07 said:

Just throwing more memory at it is not a blanket solution. The more memory you throw at it, the more the JVM has to work to keep it "cleaned up".

Tuning this garbage collection is a science of it's own, which I frankly do not know that much about. I recommend you do some googling.

So it would be recommended to try and keep it as close to 90ish% as possible to reduce garbage collection?

 

And what would I be googling? 

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8 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

Again, I can't say which numbers you'd use.

 

You can search for things like "Minecraft JVM Arguments".

But I'm not sure how that would help. The problem is the pack dropping frames every now and again, granted that could be due to garbage collection, but even at 4GB, there is as much lag spikes.

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2 minutes ago, diesieben07 said:

Like I said, lag spikes could be from garbage collection.

If they aren't, you can't do much except either use a profiler or take out mods one by one (preferably a binary search).

What is a profiler?

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----------------- alloyed-1.18.2-v1.5a.jar almostunified-forge-1.18.2-0.3.10.jar another_furniture-forge-1.2.2-1.18.2.jar antiqueatlas-7.1.1-forge-mc1.18.2.jar Apotheosis-1.18.2-5.8.1.jar appliedenergistics2-forge-11.7.6.jar Aquaculture-1.18.2-2.3.12.jar architectury-4.11.93-forge.jar ars_nouveau-1.18.2-2.9.0.jar artifacts-1.18.2-4.2.2.jar AttributeFix-Forge-1.18.2-14.0.2.jar baby_delight_1.0.1_forge_1.18.2.jar babyfat-forge-1.18.2-1.1.2.jar balm-3.2.6.jar BambooEverything-forge-1.3.8-build.45+mc1.18.2.jar baubley-heart-canisters-1.18.2-1.0.0.jar bettas_delight_1.2.0_forge_1.18.2.jar bettas-forge-1.18.2-1.1.0.jar BetterCompatibilityChecker-1.1.21-build.48+mc1.18.2.jar BiomesOPlenty-1.18.2-16.0.0.109-universal.jar blockui-1.18.2-0.0.71-ALPHA.jar BloodMagic-1.18.2-3.2.6-41.jar blue_skies-1.18.2-1.3.12.jar blueprint-1.18.2-5.5.0.jar Bookshelf-Forge-1.18.2-13.3.56.jar Botania-1.18.2-435.jar BrandonsCore-1.18.2-3.1.9.280-universal.jar bwncr-3.13.21.jar caelus-forge-1.18.1-3.0.0.2.jar cc-tweaked-1.18.2-1.101.3.jar cfm-7.0.0-pre35-1.18.2.jar champions-forge-1.18.2-2.1.6.3.jar charginggadgets-1.7.0.jar chipped-forge-1.18.2-2.0.1.jar citadel-1.11.3-1.18.2.jar cloth-config-6.5.102-forge.jar CodeChickenLib-1.18.2-4.1.4.488-universal.jar cofh_core-1.18.2-9.2.2.44.jar collective-1.18.2-6.66.jar comforts-forge-1.18.2-5.0.0.6.jar CommonCapabilities-1.18.2-2.9.0.jar compactmachines-4.5.0.jar connectedglass-1.1.8-forge-mc1.18.jar connectivity-1.18.2-3.2.jar constructionwand-1.18.2-2.9.jar Controlling-forge-1.18.2-9.0+23.jar cookingforblockheads-forge-1.18.2-12.2.0.jar corpse-1.18.2-1.0.1.jar craftingtweaks-forge-1.18.2-14.0.7.jar crashutilities-4.1.jar create_central_kitchen-1.18.2-for-create-0.5.1.e-1.3.9.b.jar create_enchantment_industry-1.18.2-for-create-0.5.1.e-1.2.6.c.jar create_misc_and_things_ 1.18.2_4.0A.jar create_ore_excavation_plus-0.2.2-1.18.2.jar create_recycle_1.0.2_forge_1.18.2.jar create_sabers-1.18.2-1.3.0.jar create-1.18.2-0.5.1.e.jar createaddition-1.18.2-1.0.0.jar createappliedkinetics-1.3.1-1.18.2.jar createarmoryv0.6BP.jar createbb-1.18.2-1.8.1.jar createbigcannons-forge-1.18.2-0.5.2.a.jar CreateCasing-1.18.2-1.4.2.jar create-chromaticreturn1.18.2_v1.1.jar create-chromaticreturn1.18.2_v1.4.1.jar create-confectionery1.18.2_v1.0.9.jar createdeco-1.3.3-1.18.2.jar createdieselgenerators-1.18.2-1.1d.jar Create-Dreams-n-Desires-1.18.2-0.1a.PREBETA.jar create-interiors-v0.3.1-1.18.2.jar createoreexcavation-1.1.1.jar create-stuff-additions1.18.2_v2.0.4a.jar creeperoverhaul-1.3.1-forge.jar cristellib-forge-1.0.0.jar Croptopia-1.18.2-FORGE-2.1.0.jar CTM-1.18.2-1.1.5+5.jar ctov-2.9.4.jar cupboard-1.18.2-1.5.jar curioofundying-forge-1.18-5.3.0.0.jar curios-forge-1.18.2-5.0.9.1.jar curiouselytra-forge-1.18.1-5.0.1.0.jar CyclopsCore-1.18.2-1.17.6.jar DarkPaintings-Forge-1.18.2-10.0.4.jar Ding-1.18.2-Forge-1.4.1.jar domum_ornamentum-1.18.2-1.0.50-ALPHA-universal.jar Draconic-Evolution-1.18.2-3.0.29.524-universal.jar dracovita_delight_1.0.2_forge_1.18.2.jar dragonseeker-1.1.1-1.18.2.jar DungeonCrawl-1.18.2-2.3.14.jar DungeonsArise-1.18.2-2.1.52-release.jar EasyAnvils-v3.0.0-1.18.2-Forge.jar EasyMagic-v3.3.0-1.18.2-Forge.jar ecologics-forge-1.18.2-1.7.11.jar EnchantmentDescriptions-Forge-1.18.2-10.0.12.jar EnderStorage-1.18.2-2.9.0.182-universal.jar engineersdecor-1.18.2-1.1.28.jar Entity_Collision_FPS_Fix-forge-1.18.2-1.0.0.jar entity_texture_features_forge_1.18.2-4.5.1.jar entityculling-forge-1.6.1-mc1.18.2.jar EvilCraft-1.18.2-1.2.22.jar expandability-6.0.0.jar ExtraDisks-1.18.2-2.1.0.jar ExtraStorage-1.18.2-2.2.1.jar ExtremeReactors2-1.18.2-2.0.71.jar extremesoundmuffler-3.30_forge-1.18.2.jar Fallingleaves-1.18.2-1.3.2.jar FarmersDelight-1.18.2-1.2.3.jar FarmersRespite-1.18.2-1.3.0.jar farmingforblockheads-forge-1.18.2-10.0.2.jar farmlife-1.18.2-1.0.1.jar farsight-1.18.2-1.9.jar FastFurnace-1.18.2-6.0.3.jar FastLeafDecay-28.jar Fastload-Reforged-mc1.18.2-3.4.0.jar FastSuite-1.18.2-3.0.2.jar FastWorkbench-1.18.2-6.1.1.jar feature_nbt_deadlock_be_gone_forge-2.0.0+1.18.2.jar ferritecore-4.2.2-forge.jar findme-3.0.6-forge.jar FluxNetworks-1.18.2-7.0.9.15.jar FpsReducer2-forge-1.18.2-2.0.jar FramedBlocks-5.11.5.jar ftb-essentials-1802.2.2-build.83.jar ftb-library-forge-1802.3.11-build.177.jar fusion-1.0.6-forge-mc1.18.jar galosphere_delight_1.1.0_forge_1.18.2.jar Galosphere-1.18.2-1.2.2-Forge.jar GatewaysToEternity-1.18.2-2.3.0.jar geckolib-forge-1.18-3.0.57.jar glassential-forge-1.18.2-1.2.3.jar gobber_delight_2.0.0_forge_1.18.2.jar Gobber2-Forge-1.18.2-2.6.37.jar goblintraders-1.8.0-1.18.2.jar gpumemleakfix-1.18.2-1.6.jar guardvillagers-1.18.2.1.4.3.jar HealthOverlay-1.18.2-6.3.4.jar hexerei-0.2.2.jar Highlighter-1.18.1-1.1.2.jar honeyexpansion-1.1.1.jar iceandfire-2.1.12-1.18.2.jar Iceberg-1.18.2-forge-1.0.49.jar ImmersiveEngineering-1.18.2-8.4.0-161.jar industrial-foregoing-1.18.2-3.3.1.6-10.jar InsaneLib-1.5.3-mc1.18.2.jar IntegratedDynamics-1.18.2-1.16.1.jar inventorysorter-1.18-19.0.0.jar ironchest-1.18.2-13.2.11.jar ironfurnaces-1.18.2-3.3.3.jar ItalianDelight-1.18.2 1.5+FIX.jar Jade-1.18.2-forge-5.3.0.jar jei-1.18.2-forge-10.2.1.1005.jar jeiintegration_1.18.2-9.0.0.37.jar JustEnoughProfessions-1.18.2-1.3.0.jar JustEnoughResources-1.18.2-0.14.1.171.jar kotlinforforge-3.12.0-all.jar kubejs-forge-1802.5.5-build.569.jar kubejs-mekanism-1802.1.3-build.8.jar kubejs-thermal-1802.1.5-build.16.jar L_Enders Cataclysm-0.51-changed Them -1.18.2.jar largemeals-1.18.2-2.0.jar lazydfu-1.0-1.18+.jar LegendaryTooltips-1.18.2-1.3.1.jar letmedespawn-1.18.x-1.19.x-forge-1.0.3.jar lightspeed-1.18.2-1.0.5.jar logprot-1.18.2-1.7.jar lootr-1.18.2-0.3.25.63.jar mahoutsukai-1.18.2-v1.34.57.jar Mantle-1.18.2-1.9.45.jar MaxHealthFix-Forge-1.18.2-5.0.4.jar mcjtylib-1.18-6.0.20.jar mcw-bridges-2.1.0-mc1.18.2forge.jar mcw-doors-1.1.0forge-mc1.18.2.jar mcw-fences-1.0.7-mc1.18.2forge.jar mcw-furniture-3.2.0-mc1.18.2forge.jar mcw-roofs-2.2.4-mc1.18.2forge.jar mcw-trapdoors-1.1.1-mc1.18.2forge.jar mcw-windows-2.2.0-mc1.18.2forge.jar MEGACells-1.4.2-1.18.2.jar Mekanism-1.18.2-10.2.5.465.jar MekanismAdditions-1.18.2-10.2.5.465.jar MekanismGenerators-1.18.2-10.2.5.465.jar MekanismTools-1.18.2-10.2.5.465.jar minecolonies-1.18.2-1.1.149-RELEASE.jar mininggadgets-1.11.1.jar MmmMmmMmmMmm-1.18.2-1.5.2.jar modelfix-1.8.jar modernfix-forge-5.7.4+mc1.18.2.jar modonomicon-1.18.2-1.33.1.jar molten_vents_custom_blocks.json molten_vents-1.18.2-2.0.3.jar MoreMekanismProcessing-1.18.2-2.5.jar moreoverlays-1.20.11-mc1.18.2.jar morevillagers-forge-1.18.2-3.3.2.jar MouseTweaks-forge-mc1.18-2.21.jar mowziesmobs-1.5.32.jar multi-piston-1.18.2-1.2.15-ALPHA.jar mutil-1.18.2-4.5.0.jar naturalist-forge-1.1.1-1.18.2.jar netherportalfix-forge-1.18.2-9.0.1.jar NethersDelight-1.18.2-2.2.0.jar nocubes_create_compats_1.0.0_forge_1.18.2.jar notenoughanimations-forge-1.6.0-mc1.18.2.jar observable-2.2.3-forge.jar occultism-1.18.2-1.84.0.jar Oh_The_Biomes_You'll_Go-forge-1.18.2-1.4.7.jar Paintings-forge-1.18.2-9.1.2.1.jar Patchouli-1.18.2-71.1.jar pipez-1.18.2-1.1.5.jar Placebo-1.18.2-6.6.7.jar plushies-1.2-1.18.2-forge.jar pneumaticcraft-repressurized-1.18.2-3.6.1-29.jar polymorph-forge-1.18.2-0.49.jar Powah-3.0.8.jar Prism-1.18.2-1.0.1.jar productivebees-1.18.2-0.9.3.0.jar ProgressiveBosses-3.6.6-mc1.18.2.jar PuzzlesLib-v3.5.8-1.18.2-Forge.jar ReAuth-1.18-Forge-4.0.7.jar refinedstorage-1.10.5.jar refinedstorageaddons-0.8.2.jar reliquary-1.18.2-2.0.19.1161.jar repurposed_structures_forge-5.1.14+1.18.2.jar rftoolsbase-1.18-3.0.12.jar rhino-forge-1802.2.1-build.255.jar right-click-harvest-3.2.0+1.18.2-forge.jar RSInfinityBooster-1.18.2-2.1+20.jar rsrequestify-2.2.0.jar rubidium_extras-1.18.2_v1.3.2.jar rubidium-0.5.6.jar saturn-mc1.18.2-0.0.4.jar savage_and_ravage-1.18.2-4.0.1.jar Serene Seasons-1.18.2-7.0.0.13.jar shutupexperimentalsettings-1.0.5.jar simplylight-1.18.2-1.4.5-build.43.jar SmartBrainLib-forge-1.18.2-1.9.jar smoothchunk-1.18.2-1.9.jar sophisticatedbackpacks-1.18.2-3.18.60.906.jar sophisticatedcore-1.18.2-0.5.87.416.jar sophisticatedstorage-1.18.2-0.8.42.599.jar spark-1.10.38-forge.jar spirit-forge-1.18.2-2.1.8.jar starlight-1.0.2+forge.546ae87.jar starterkit-1.18.2-5.2.jar Steam_Rails-1.4.4+forge-mc1.18.2-build.12.jar StorageDrawers-1.18.2-10.2.1.jar Structory-1.18.2-1.0.2.jar structure_gel-1.18.2-2.4.7.jar structureessentials-1.18.2-3.0.jar structurize-1.18.2-1.0.424-ALPHA.jar supermartijn642configlib-1.1.8-forge-mc1.18.jar supermartijn642corelib-1.1.13-forge-mc1.18.jar swingthroughgrass-1.18.2-1.9.1.jar TConstruct-1.18.2-3.6.4.113.jar TerraBlender-forge-1.18.2-1.2.0.126.jar Terralith_1.18.2_v2.2.4.jar tetra-1.18.2-4.10.1.jar thermal_cultivation-1.18.2-9.2.1.20.jar thermal_dynamics-1.18.2-9.2.2.19.jar thermal_expansion-1.18.2-9.2.1.22.jar thermal_foundation-1.18.2-9.2.1.53.jar thermal_innovation-1.18.2-9.2.1.19.jar thermal_integration-1.18.2-9.2.1.18.jar titanium-1.18.2-3.5.9-43.jar ToolBelt-1.18.2-1.18.9.jar torchmaster-18.2.1.jar towns_and_towers_forge-1.10.0.1+1.18.2.jar trashcans-1.0.18-forge-mc1.18.jar trashslot-forge-1.18.2-11.0.3.jar TravelersBackpack-1.18.2-7.1.42.jar twigs-1.1.4-patch4+1.18.2-forge.jar twilightforest-1.18.2-4.1.1494-universal.jar waystones-forge-1.18.2-10.2.1.jar WitherSkeletonTweaks-1.18.2-7.1.3.jar xnet-1.18-4.0.9.jar xptome-1.18.2-2.1.7.jar YungsApi-1.18.2-Forge-2.2.9.jar YungsBetterDesertTemples-1.18.2-Forge-1.3.1.jar YungsBetterDungeons-1.18.2-Forge-2.1.0.jar YungsBetterMineshafts-1.18.2-Forge-2.2.jar YungsBetterNetherFortresses-1.18.2-Forge-1.0.0.jar YungsBetterOceanMonuments-1.18.2-Forge-1.0.3.jar YungsBetterStrongholds-1.18.2-Forge-2.1.1.jar YungsBetterWitchHuts-1.18.2-Forge-1.0.1.jar YungsBridges-1.18.2-Forge-2.1.0.jar YungsExtras-1.18.2-Forge-2.1.0.jar ZeroCore2-1.18.2-2.1.39.jar [1.18.2] SecurityCraft v1.9.7.jar AdvancedPeripherals-1.18.2-0.7.31r.jar AE2-Things-1.0.5.jar AE2WTLib-11.6.3.jar AI-Improvements-1.18.2-0.5.2.jar alexsmobs-1.18.6.jar
    • BenignGamer
      Having an absolute nightmare

      By BenignGamer · Posted

      Hey guys,    So I've been at this for quite a while. I currently play on a server with me and a buddy of mine. We have around 5-10 mods on there and they're pretty light on the system, however, we're looking to start getting into some serious modding on another server. As of right now the standard server has 2gb of ram allocated but I'm trying to increase it on the more heavily modded server to make sure it can keep up with the demand. I've allocated 8GB of RAM in the user_jvm_args.txt file # Xmx and Xms set the maximum and minimum RAM usage, respectively. # They can take any number, followed by an M or a G. # M means Megabyte, G means Gigabyte. # For example, to set the maximum to 3GB: -Xmx3G # To set the minimum to 2.5GB: -Xms2500M -Xms2G # A good default for a modded server is 4GB. # Uncomment the next line to set it. -Xmx8G but nothing changed as i expected event though I followed someone else's guidance, so i went into my run.bat file and was presented with this. @echo off REM Forge requires a configured set of both JVM and program arguments. REM Add custom JVM arguments to the user_jvm_args.txt REM Add custom program arguments {such as nogui} to this file in the next line before the %* or REM  pass them to this script directly java @user_jvm_args.txt @libraries/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.20.1-47.1.46/win_args.txt %* pause I've tried adding a few different arguments in there but when I run the bat file and the GUI pops up it reads that there's either an error or it cant find my Jar file which is in the Version file. I then take the Jar file and move it out of it so there is a direct route to make sure there's no confusion but I still get the same error. one example is  Error: Unable to initialize main class net.minecraft.server.Main Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: joptsimple/ValueConverter and the argument I'm using is  @echo off java -Xmx8G -Xms2G -jar server-1.20.1.jar --nogui PAUSE I've been at this for literally months, researching, learning and just trying different things out. I'm hoping someone can either just give me an argument that will work or explain what I need to do, just anything. I'd appreciate the help.   Your fellow gamer, B.

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