Posted August 23, 20223 yr Crash Report as below. I have tried changing the versions of both mods, as well as running a barebones mod file that only included Create and the aforementioned mods, only to find that it still crashes. Is there anything that I can do, or do I need to merely wait until these two mods are updated? Spoiler ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // I bet Cylons wouldn't have this problem. Time: 8/22/22, 8:17 PM Description: Mod loading error has occurred java.lang.Exception: Mod Loading has failed at net.minecraftforge.logging.CrashReportExtender.dumpModLoadingCrashReport(CrashReportExtender.java:55) ~[forge-1.18.2-40.1.68-universal.jar%2384!/:?] {re:classloading} at net.minecraftforge.client.loading.ClientModLoader.completeModLoading(ClientModLoader.java:170) ~[forge-1.18.2-40.1.68-universal.jar%2384!/:?] {re:classloading,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.lambda$new$1(Minecraft.java:556) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:APP:flywheel.mixins.json:PausedPartialTickAccessor,pl:mixin:APP:architectury.mixins.json:MixinMinecraft,pl:mixin:APP:create.mixins.json:WindowResizeMixin,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.Util.m_137521_(Util.java:397) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:classloading} at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.lambda$new$2(Minecraft.java:550) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:APP:flywheel.mixins.json:PausedPartialTickAccessor,pl:mixin:APP:architectury.mixins.json:MixinMinecraft,pl:mixin:APP:create.mixins.json:WindowResizeMixin,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.LoadingOverlay.m_6305_(LoadingOverlay.java:135) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:classloading,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.renderer.GameRenderer.m_109093_(GameRenderer.java:879) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.m_91383_(Minecraft.java:1045) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:APP:flywheel.mixins.json:PausedPartialTickAccessor,pl:mixin:APP:architectury.mixins.json:MixinMinecraft,pl:mixin:APP:create.mixins.json:WindowResizeMixin,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.m_91374_(Minecraft.java:664) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:APP:flywheel.mixins.json:PausedPartialTickAccessor,pl:mixin:APP:architectury.mixins.json:MixinMinecraft,pl:mixin:APP:create.mixins.json:WindowResizeMixin,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:205) ~[client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar%2379!/:?] {re:classloading,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:77) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:568) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.targets.CommonClientLaunchHandler.lambda$launchService$0(CommonClientLaunchHandler.java:31) ~[fmlloader-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2317!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandlerDecorator.launch(LaunchServiceHandlerDecorator.java:37) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandler.launch(LaunchServiceHandler.java:53) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandler.launch(LaunchServiceHandler.java:71) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:106) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:77) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) [modlauncher-9.1.3.jar%235!/:?] {} at cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:149) [bootstraplauncher-1.0.0.jar:?] {} A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Head -- Thread: Render thread Stacktrace: at jdk.internal.loader.BuiltinClassLoader.loadClass(BuiltinClassLoader.java:641) ~[?:?] {} -- MOD createdeco -- Details: Caused by 0: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:77) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:499) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:480) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.javafmlmod.FMLModContainer.constructMod(FMLModContainer.java:67) ~[javafmllanguage-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2381!/:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.ModContainer.lambda$buildTransitionHandler$4(ModContainer.java:106) ~[fmlcore-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2380!/:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1804) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1796) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:373) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1182) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1655) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1622) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:165) ~[?:?] {} Caused by 1: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/simibubi/create/repack/registrate/Registrate at com.github.talrey.createdeco.CreateDecoMod.<init>(CreateDecoMod.java:53) ~[createdeco-1.2.9-1.18.2.jar%2363!/:1.2.9-1.18.2] {re:classloading} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:77) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:499) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:480) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.javafmlmod.FMLModContainer.constructMod(FMLModContainer.java:67) ~[javafmllanguage-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2381!/:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.ModContainer.lambda$buildTransitionHandler$4(ModContainer.java:106) ~[fmlcore-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2380!/:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1804) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1796) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:373) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1182) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1655) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1622) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:165) ~[?:?] {} Mod File: /C:/Users/chris/curseforge/minecraft/Instances/Custom Create Profile/mods/createdeco-1.2.9-1.18.2.jar Failure message: Create Deco (createdeco) has failed to load correctly java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: null Mod Version: 1.2.9-1.18.2 Mod Issue URL: NOT PROVIDED Exception message: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.simibubi.create.repack.registrate.Registrate Stacktrace: at jdk.internal.loader.BuiltinClassLoader.loadClass(BuiltinClassLoader.java:641) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:520) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.cl.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:134) ~[securejarhandler-1.0.3.jar:?] {} at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:520) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.cl.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:134) ~[securejarhandler-1.0.3.jar:?] {} at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:520) ~[?:?] {} at com.github.talrey.createdeco.CreateDecoMod.<init>(CreateDecoMod.java:53) ~[createdeco-1.2.9-1.18.2.jar%2363!/:1.2.9-1.18.2] {re:classloading} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:77) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:499) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:480) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.javafmlmod.FMLModContainer.constructMod(FMLModContainer.java:67) ~[javafmllanguage-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2381!/:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.ModContainer.lambda$buildTransitionHandler$4(ModContainer.java:106) ~[fmlcore-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2380!/:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1804) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1796) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:373) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1182) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1655) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1622) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:165) ~[?:?] {} -- MOD createfa -- Details: Mod File: /C:/Users/chris/curseforge/minecraft/Instances/Custom Create Profile/mods/createfa-1.18.2_v1.0.10.jar Failure message: CreateFoodAdditions (createfa) has failed to load correctly java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'com.simibubi.create.repack.registrate.util.nullness.NonNullSupplier com.simibubi.create.foundation.data.CreateRegistrate.lazy(java.lang.String)' Mod Version: 1.18.2_v1.0.10 Mod Issue URL: NOT PROVIDED Exception message: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'com.simibubi.create.repack.registrate.util.nullness.NonNullSupplier com.simibubi.create.foundation.data.CreateRegistrate.lazy(java.lang.String)' Stacktrace: at createfa.CreateFoodAdditions.<clinit>(CreateFoodAdditions.java:14) ~[createfa-1.18.2_v1.0.10.jar%2364!/:1.18.2_v1.0.10] {re:classloading} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:77) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:499) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:480) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.javafmlmod.FMLModContainer.constructMod(FMLModContainer.java:67) ~[javafmllanguage-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2381!/:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.ModContainer.lambda$buildTransitionHandler$4(ModContainer.java:106) ~[fmlcore-1.18.2-40.1.68.jar%2380!/:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1804) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1796) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:373) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1182) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1655) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1622) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:165) ~[?:?] {} -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.18.2 Minecraft Version ID: 1.18.2 Operating System: Windows 10 (amd64) version 10.0 Java Version: 17.0.1, Microsoft Java VM Version: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Microsoft Memory: 834969088 bytes (796 MiB) / 2323644416 bytes (2216 MiB) up to 4294967296 bytes (4096 MiB) CPUs: 8 Processor Vendor: GenuineIntel Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz Identifier: Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 13 Microarchitecture: Coffee Lake Frequency (GHz): 3.00 Number of physical packages: 1 Number of physical CPUs: 8 Number of logical CPUs: 8 Graphics card #0 name: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Graphics card #0 vendor: Intel Corporation (0x8086) Graphics card #0 VRAM (MB): 1024.00 Graphics card #0 deviceId: 0x3e98 Graphics card #0 versionInfo: DriverVersion=27.20.100.9664 Graphics card #1 name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics card #1 vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Graphics card #1 VRAM (MB): 4095.00 Graphics card #1 deviceId: 0x1f02 Graphics card #1 versionInfo: DriverVersion=30.0.15.1277 Memory slot #0 capacity (MB): 16384.00 Memory slot #0 clockSpeed (GHz): 2.80 Memory slot #0 type: DDR4 Memory slot #1 capacity (MB): 16384.00 Memory slot #1 clockSpeed (GHz): 2.80 Memory slot #1 type: DDR4 Virtual memory max (MB): 37454.43 Virtual memory used (MB): 32814.55 Swap memory total (MB): 4864.00 Swap memory used (MB): 205.88 JVM Flags: 4 total; -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump -Xss1M -Xmx4096m -Xms256m ModLauncher: 9.1.3+9.1.3+main.9b69c82a ModLauncher launch target: forgeclient ModLauncher naming: srg ModLauncher services: mixin PLUGINSERVICE eventbus PLUGINSERVICE slf4jfixer PLUGINSERVICE object_holder_definalize PLUGINSERVICE runtime_enum_extender PLUGINSERVICE capability_token_subclass PLUGINSERVICE accesstransformer PLUGINSERVICE runtimedistcleaner PLUGINSERVICE mixin TRANSFORMATIONSERVICE fml TRANSFORMATIONSERVICE FML Language Providers: [email protected] lowcodefml@null javafml@null Mod List: client-1.18.2-20220404.173914-srg.jar |Minecraft |minecraft |1.18.2 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: a1:d4:5e:04:4f:d3:d6:e0:7b:37:97:cf:77:b0:de:ad:4a:47:ce:8c:96:49:5f:0a:cf:8c:ae:b2:6d:4b:8a:3f inventorysorter-1.18-19.0.0.jar |Simple Inventory Sorter |inventorysorter |19.0.0 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE TerraBlender-forge-1.18.2-1.1.0.102.jar |TerraBlender |terrablender |1.18.2-1.1.0.102 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE MouseTweaks-forge-mc1.18-2.21.jar |Mouse Tweaks |mousetweaks |2.21 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE BiomesOPlenty-1.18.2-16.0.0.109-universal.jar |Biomes O' Plenty |biomesoplenty |1.18.2-16.0.0.109 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE easy_villagers-1.18.2-1.0.11.jar |Easy Villagers |easy_villagers |1.18.2-1.0.11 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE flywheel-forge-1.18.2-0.6.5.jar |Flywheel |flywheel |0.6.5 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE create-1.18.2-0.5.0.d.jar |Create |create |0.5.0.d |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE createdeco-1.2.9-1.18.2.jar |Create Deco |createdeco |1.2.9-1.18.2 |ERROR |Manifest: NOSIGNATURE Xaeros_Minimap_22.13.2_Forge_1.18.2.jar |Xaero's Minimap |xaerominimap |22.13.2 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE create-factory-1.18.2-v1.6.jar |Create: Factory |create_factory |1.6 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE CTM-1.18.2-1.1.5+5.jar |ConnectedTexturesMod |ctm |1.18.2-1.1.5+5 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE StorageDrawers-1.18.2-10.2.1.jar |Storage Drawers |storagedrawers |10.2.1 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE create-confectionery1.18.2_v1.0.8.jar |Create Confectionery |create_confectionery |1.0.8 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE architectury-4.9.83-forge.jar |Architectury |architectury |4.9.83 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE light-overlay-6.0.5-forge.jar |Light Overlay |lightoverlay |6.0.5 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE berries-resources-1.18.2-0.12.0.jar |BerriesResources |berries_resources |0.12.0 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE cloth-config-6.2.62-forge.jar |Cloth Config v4 API |cloth_config |6.2.62 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE forge-1.18.2-40.1.68-universal.jar |Forge |forge |40.1.68 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: 84:ce:76:e8:45:35:e4:0e:63:86:df:47:59:80:0f:67:6c:c1:5f:6e:5f:4d:b3:54:47:1a:9f:7f:ed:5e:f2:90 cofh_core-1.18.2-1.6.4.21.jar |CoFH Core |cofh_core |1.6.4.21 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: 75:0b:cc:9b:64:2e:9b:c4:41:d1:95:00:71:ee:87:1a:b3:5e:4b:da:8e:e8:39:00:fd:5d:e5:9c:40:42:33:09 createfa-1.18.2_v1.0.10.jar |CreateFoodAdditions |createfa |1.18.2_v1.0.10 |ERROR |Manifest: NOSIGNATURE refinedstorage-1.10.3.jar |Refined Storage |refinedstorage |1.10.3 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE jei-1.18.2-9.7.1.232.jar |Just Enough Items |jei |9.7.1.232 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE refinedstorageaddons-0.8.2.jar |Refined Storage Addons |refinedstorageaddons |0.8.2 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE createcafe-1.9.2-1.18.2.jar |Create Cafe |createcafe |1.9.2-1.18.2 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE selene-1.18.2-1.17.9.jar |Selene |selene |1.18.2-1.17.9 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE supplementaries-1.18.2-1.4.11.jar |Supplementaries |supplementaries |1.18.2-1.4.11 |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE createaddition-1.18.2-20220817a.jar |Create Crafts & Additions |createaddition |1.18.2-20220817a |COMMON_SET|Manifest: NOSIGNATURE Flywheel Backend: GL33 Instanced Arrays Crash Report UUID: a42e7ace-c0d2-489f-b7ad-8208c0d75f09 FML: 40.1 Forge: net.minecraftforge:40.1.68
August 23, 20223 yr You need to contact the mod authors to find out which version to use. Boilerplate: If you don't post your logs/debug.log we can't help you. For curseforge you need to enable the forge debug.log in its minecraft settings. You should also post your crash report if you have one. If there is no error in the log file and you don't have a crash report then post the launcher_log.txt from the minecraft folder. Again for curseforge this will be in your curseforge/minecraft/Install Large files should be posted to a file sharing site like https://gist.github.com You should also read the support forum sticky post.
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