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[1.7.2] [UNSOLVED] Forge server laags

Bektor

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Bektor Dragon Slayer

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Hello.

 

Every time if I play on my local server (the server is only for testing the server part of my own mod) the server is really laggy, if new chunks will be generated...

 

I've tested it with other mods and without mods --> no difference.

(If you need it, here is my internet connection: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3566693859 [Yes, I know its slow, but I can't get faster internet without getting a new internet calbe for this street...])

 

The server is running on my local PC with Hamachi and Forge 1.7.2-10.12.2.1125. I've tested it with Forge 1.7.2-10.12.2.1124 and 1.7.2-10.12.2.1123, too --> same result.

 

If I run an older Forge version (1.7.2-10.12.2.1121) everything works fine, only a few lags by generating new chunks, that you can only see in the console, that I think happens because I added there a really big modpack, but I didn't tested it without the modpack in these older Forge versions.

 

A few more informations:

  • The server has 4GB-Ram to run with.
  • Its an Hamachi-Server.
  • The server is running local on my Pc.
  • http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3566693859
  • If new chunks are generating the screen of the client is freezing for 1 or 2 seonds [without any other mods installed]. (the time is depending on how many new chunks are generating and on how fast are you running/moving/driving/.... and how many other mods are influence the terrain generation...with big mods that didn't influence the time, its more laggy too)
  • I've tested it in a Jungle biome with a ocean nearby.
  • tested with mods and without mods --> same result

 

If you need more informations then say it...

Developer of Primeval Forest.

Bektor Dragon Slayer

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  On 6/16/2014 at 2:25 PM, diesieben07 said:

Generating new chunks is slow.

Depending on your PC you might just not be able to host a server. How many people play on it?

Also: how much ram do you actually have? (Not assigned to the server, but just as in hardware).

But it was never so slow.

 

Well, currently only one person --> me (but normaly two or three).

 

I have 16GB Ram. And if I can run games like Battlefield 4 without problems on High Graphic Settings and with no laggs in SMP then I think, this Pc is good enough for a Server. And in 1.6.4, I had my last server running and there were no problems...

Developer of Primeval Forest.

Bektor Dragon Slayer

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Ok, here are the logs:

 

 

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And here is one Client log:

 

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Oh and this error "Using missing texture, unable to load minecraft:textures/blocks/MISSING_ICON_BLOCK_177_campFire.png"

in the log cames from my mod, because I didn't added a texture to the game for my Block, because the block is completly rendered with a model, inside and outside of the inventory.

 

I think the important lines in this Client log are this lines:

 

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Bektor Dragon Slayer

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Yes, I tried it without any mods on the server and without any mods on the client --> same result.

 

It seems to be, that you can run faster then the chunks are sended to the client or generated. Because sometimes I ran and a few chunks for me the complete world is generating and inside the chunk I was standing one time trees and animals wasn't generated, there were only generated at this moment I was standing in this chunk, but mostly in creative you can see the chunk generation a few chunks before your location and in survival mode, you can't see the chunk generation, but you know it because of the lags and freezing screens...

With loading chunks its the same problem, but there is not so extrem. (if you not flying)

 

And so this problems make it inpossible to use speed postions. (not tested what then happens but I want not to know it, if without them its so laggy by generating and loading chunks...

 

I think the only chunk that is loading realy fast and without big lags is the spawn location...

 

EDIT: I have tested now a bit in Singleplayer and there the chunk generation and loading chunks lags too, but ony if you fly in creative mod, if you walk in survival mode, you didn't notice this lags the most time, only sometimes you notice them in surival mode too.

 

EDIT2: If you stand in creative mod in Singleplayer awhile on one place you can fly then a bit longer without lags but after a few seconds you are faster or so fast as the chunk generation and loading (but loading makes not so big problems in Singeplayer...)

 

EDIT3: I've tested it now in Singleplayer in other biomes, it seems to be, that this problems occures only in the jungle biome for the singleplayer. If this happens for the multiplayer in other biomes too, that there is no lag by generting things and so on, there I have no idea, because I didn't tested it yet.

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LexManos Reality Controller

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Sounds to me like your computer is just slow, and that you're exaggerating the issue by trying to go as fast as you can. I can easily outrun vanilla world gen if I go into creative mode. This is a limitation of minecraft and your computer.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
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Bektor Dragon Slayer

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  On 6/17/2014 at 5:09 PM, LexManos said:

Sounds to me like your computer is just slow, and that you're exaggerating the issue by trying to go as fast as you can. I can easily outrun vanilla world gen if I go into creative mode. This is a limitation of minecraft and your computer.

 

Wait this is too slow hardware:

 

 

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If that is too slow, whats then fast, need I really a Gaming-PC from 2014 with the newest hardware instead of an I think 2012 Gaming-PC with the newest I think 2012-Hardware?

 

If a PC where you can play new games (late 2013, 2014) without lags on high graphic settings on it and without 80% CPU, if that is a too slow PC for Forge, then I stop playing MC-Forge, because I will never buy a new PC for only one Game, if everything else works fine...

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LexManos Reality Controller

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What you seem to fail to understand is that minecraft is single threaded.

You have a pretty good {not super} cpu, but that means nothing because MC only uses one core. And does almost all of its rendering on the CPU.

And these are not FORGE requirements, Yes, we do make minecraft do quite a bit more and on SOME computers there have been reports of issues, but we also do MANY performance improvements that usually net the end user a performance gain.

 

Feel free to try profiling your game yourself, and try to track something down.

However, 'lag' is not a issue we can help you with as 99.9999% of the time its someone doesn't understand that 1) MC is a resource hog, 2) mods are doing something or 3) They are breaking it.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
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Bektor Dragon Slayer

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  On 6/17/2014 at 11:21 PM, LexManos said:

What you seem to fail to understand is that minecraft is single threaded.

You have a pretty good {not super} cpu, but that means nothing because MC only uses one core. And does almost all of its rendering on the CPU.

And these are not FORGE requirements, Yes, we do make minecraft do quite a bit more and on SOME computers there have been reports of issues, but we also do MANY performance improvements that usually net the end user a performance gain.

 

Feel free to try profiling your game yourself, and try to track something down.

However, 'lag' is not a issue we can help you with as 99.9999% of the time its someone doesn't understand that 1) MC is a resource hog, 2) mods are doing something or 3) They are breaking it.

 

Well, but I think or thought that this is a performance issue, because I have a good Pc and with older Forge builds or Minecraft itself I had never such a lags by generting jungle terrain and I never had small lags by loading jungle terrain.

 

(So my friend set up a server thats running on an older Forge build for testing the new version of my own mod Primeval Forest, that brings an Update for 1.7 with it, too. And with the older Forge version on that my friend is running the server --> no problems and on my own Pc, same --> older Forge versions for 1.7 are working fine (Forge 1.7.2-10.12.2.1122 and older), only versions with async terrain generation are laggy.)

Developer of Primeval Forest.

bloodshot Tree Puncher

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  On 6/18/2014 at 2:48 PM, Bektor said:

 

Well, but I think or thought that this is a performance issue, because I have a good Pc and with older Forge builds or Minecraft itself I had never such a lags by generting jungle terrain and I never had small lags by loading jungle terrain.

 

(So my friend set up a server thats running on an older Forge build for testing the new version of my own mod Primeval Forest, that brings an Update for 1.7 with it, too. And with the older Forge version on that my friend is running the server --> no problems and on my own Pc, same --> older Forge versions for 1.7 are working fine (Forge 1.7.2-10.12.2.1122 and older), only versions with async terrain generation are laggy.)

 

Please go to webchat.esper.net #minecraftforge and send the nick "blood|work" a message so I can troubleshoot this with you.

 

Thanks

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