Samv16 Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 When I launch the game, it closes regardless, I think it can only be done with optifine, when I install one more like a minimap or any other like the backpack mod, the game simply closes, so I can't play with mods in that version, any solution? Quote
warjort Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 Try without optifine, if that fixes the problem then report the issue to optifine. Quote Boilerplate: If you don't post your logs/debug.log we can't help you. For curseforge you need to enable the forge debug.log in its minecraft settings. You should also post your crash report if you have one. If there is no error in the log file and you don't have a crash report then post the launcher_log.txt from the minecraft folder. Again for curseforge this will be in your curseforge/minecraft/Install Large files should be posted to a file sharing site like https://gist.github.com You should also read the support forum sticky post.
Samv16 Posted August 16, 2023 Author Posted August 16, 2023 Hi bro. I tried without optifine and the same, it doesn't work Quote
Samv16 Posted August 16, 2023 Author Posted August 16, 2023 Is there a way to report this to forge? Quote
warjort Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 Read the FAQ and my footer. Quote Boilerplate: If you don't post your logs/debug.log we can't help you. For curseforge you need to enable the forge debug.log in its minecraft settings. You should also post your crash report if you have one. If there is no error in the log file and you don't have a crash report then post the launcher_log.txt from the minecraft folder. Again for curseforge this will be in your curseforge/minecraft/Install Large files should be posted to a file sharing site like https://gist.github.com You should also read the support forum sticky post.
Samv16 Posted August 18, 2023 Author Posted August 18, 2023 The thing about the crash is this 2023-08-14 18:17:10,850 main WARN Advanced terminal features are not available in this environment [18:17:12] [main/INFO] [cp.mo.mo.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher running: args [--username, Samv16, --version, 1.20.1-forge-47.1.0, --gameDir, C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft, --assetsDir, C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\assets, --assetIndex, 5, --uuid, 89260fadacf23bdeaf8bd5a6e96a1de5, --accessToken, ????????, --clientId, ${clientid}, --xuid, ${auth_xuid}, --userType, legacy, --versionType, release, --launchTarget, forgeclient, --fml.forgeVersion, 47.1.0, --fml.mcVersion, 1.20.1, --fml.forgeGroup, net.minecraftforge, --fml.mcpVersion, 20230612.114412] [18:17:12] [main/INFO] [cp.mo.mo.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher 10.0.9+10.0.9+main.dcd20f30 starting: java version 19.0.2 by Oracle Corporation; OS Windows 11 arch amd64 version 10.0 [18:17:12] [main/FATAL] [cp.mo.mo.LaunchPluginHandler/MODLAUNCHER]: Encountered serious error loading launch plugin service. Things will not work well java.util.ServiceConfigurationError: cpw.mods.modlauncher.serviceapi.ILaunchPluginService: Provider net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner could not be instantiated at java.util.ServiceLoader.fail(ServiceLoader.java:586) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:813) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.get(ServiceLoader.java:729) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.util.ServiceLoaderUtils.lambda$streamWithErrorHandling$0(ServiceLoaderUtils.java:39) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline$3$1.accept(ReferencePipeline.java:197) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderSpliterator.tryAdvance(ServiceLoader.java:1499) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.Spliterator.forEachRemaining(Spliterator.java:332) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.copyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:509) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.wrapAndCopyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:499) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.stream.ReduceOps$ReduceOp.evaluateSequential(ReduceOps.java:921) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.evaluate(AbstractPipeline.java:234) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline.collect(ReferencePipeline.java:682) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchPluginHandler.<init>(LaunchPluginHandler.java:46) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.<init>(Launcher.java:65) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:78) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:141) ~[bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar:?] {} Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraftforge/api/distmarker/OnlyIn at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner.<clinit>(RuntimeDistCleaner.java:42) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar%2380!/:1.0] {} at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized(Unsafe.java:1160) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.ensureClassInitialized(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:300) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.newConstructorAccessor(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:103) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.ReflectionFactory.newConstructorAccessor(ReflectionFactory.java:201) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.acquireConstructorAccessor(Constructor.java:547) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:497) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:484) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:789) ~[?:?] {} ... 16 more Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraftforge.api.distmarker.OnlyIn at jdk.internal.loader.BuiltinClassLoader.loadClass(BuiltinClassLoader.java:641) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:521) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.cl.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:137) ~[securejarhandler-2.1.10.jar:?] {} at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:521) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner.<clinit>(RuntimeDistCleaner.java:42) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar%2380!/:1.0] {} at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized0(Native Method) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized(Unsafe.java:1160) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.ensureClassInitialized(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:300) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.newConstructorAccessor(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:103) ~[?:?] {} at jdk.internal.reflect.ReflectionFactory.newConstructorAccessor(ReflectionFactory.java:201) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.acquireConstructorAccessor(Constructor.java:547) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:497) ~[?:?] {} at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:484) ~[?:?] {} at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:789) ~[?:?] {} ... 16 more [18:17:14] [main/INFO] [ne.mi.fm.lo.ImmediateWindowHandler/]: Loading ImmediateWindowProvider fmlearlywindow [LWJGL] [ThreadLocalUtil] Unsupported JNI version detected, this may result in a crash. Please inform LWJGL developers. [18:17:14] [main/INFO] [EARLYDISPLAY/]: Trying GL version 4.6 [18:17:15] [main/INFO] [EARLYDISPLAY/]: Requested GL version 4.6 got version 4.6 [18:17:16] [main/INFO] [op.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFineTransformationService.onLoad [18:17:16] [main/INFO] [op.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFine ZIP file URL: union:/C:/Users/samvv/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/mods/OptiFine_1.20.1_HD_U_I5.jar%23130!/ [18:17:16] [main/INFO] [op.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFine ZIP file: C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\mods\OptiFine_1.20.1_HD_U_I5.jar [18:17:16] [main/INFO] [op.OptiFineTransformer/]: Target.PRE_CLASS is available [18:17:16] [main/ERROR] [ne.mi.fm.lo.FMLLoader/CORE]: Dist Cleaner is missing, we need this to run [18:17:16] [main/ERROR] [cp.mo.mo.TransformationServiceDecorator/MODLAUNCHER]: Service failed to load fml cpw.mods.modlauncher.api.IncompatibleEnvironmentException: Missing DistCleaner, cannot run! at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLLoader.lambda$onInitialLoad$2(FMLLoader.java:94) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] {} at java.util.Optional.orElseThrow(Optional.java:403) ~[?:?] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLLoader.onInitialLoad(FMLLoader.java:92) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] {} at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLServiceProvider.onLoad(FMLServiceProvider.java:100) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServiceDecorator.onLoad(TransformationServiceDecorator.java:53) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.lambda$loadTransformationServices$11(TransformationServicesHandler.java:116) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at java.util.HashMap$Values.forEach(HashMap.java:1073) ~[?:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.loadTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:116) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.initializeTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:48) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:88) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:78) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] {} at cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:141) ~[bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar:?] {} [18:17:16] [main/ERROR] [cp.mo.mo.TransformationServicesHandler/MODLAUNCHER]: Found 1 services that failed to load : [fml] Exception in thread "main" cpw.mods.modlauncher.InvalidLauncherSetupException: Invalid Services found fml at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.validateTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:110) at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.initializeTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:49) at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:88) at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:78) at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) at MC-BOOTSTRAP/[email protected]/cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) at [email protected]/cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:141) Quote
Samv16 Posted August 18, 2023 Author Posted August 18, 2023 Log 14ago2023 18:17:12.068] [main/INFO] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher running: args [--username, Samv16, --version, 1.20.1-forge-47.1.0, --gameDir, C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft, --assetsDir, C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\assets, --assetIndex, 5, --uuid, 89260fadacf23bdeaf8bd5a6e96a1de5, --accessToken, ❄❄❄❄❄❄❄❄, --clientId, ${clientid}, --xuid, ${auth_xuid}, --userType, legacy, --versionType, release, --launchTarget, forgeclient, --fml.forgeVersion, 47.1.0, --fml.mcVersion, 1.20.1, --fml.forgeGroup, net.minecraftforge, --fml.mcpVersion, 20230612.114412] [14ago2023 18:17:12.100] [main/INFO] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher 10.0.9+10.0.9+main.dcd20f30 starting: java version 19.0.2 by Oracle Corporation; OS Windows 11 arch amd64 version 10.0 [14ago2023 18:17:12.596] [main/FATAL] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchPluginHandler/MODLAUNCHER]: Encountered serious error loading launch plugin service. Things will not work well java.util.ServiceConfigurationError: cpw.mods.modlauncher.serviceapi.ILaunchPluginService: Provider net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner could not be instantiated at java.util.ServiceLoader.fail(ServiceLoader.java:586) ~[?:?] at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:813) ~[?:?] at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.get(ServiceLoader.java:729) ~[?:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.util.ServiceLoaderUtils.lambda$streamWithErrorHandling$0(ServiceLoaderUtils.java:39) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline$3$1.accept(ReferencePipeline.java:197) ~[?:?] at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderSpliterator.tryAdvance(ServiceLoader.java:1499) ~[?:?] at java.util.Spliterator.forEachRemaining(Spliterator.java:332) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.copyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:509) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.wrapAndCopyInto(AbstractPipeline.java:499) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.ReduceOps$ReduceOp.evaluateSequential(ReduceOps.java:921) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.AbstractPipeline.evaluate(AbstractPipeline.java:234) ~[?:?] at java.util.stream.ReferencePipeline.collect(ReferencePipeline.java:682) ~[?:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchPluginHandler.<init>(LaunchPluginHandler.java:46) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.<init>(Launcher.java:65) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:78) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:141) ~[bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar:?] Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraftforge/api/distmarker/OnlyIn at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner.<clinit>(RuntimeDistCleaner.java:42) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar%2380!/:1.0] at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized0(Native Method) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized(Unsafe.java:1160) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.ensureClassInitialized(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:300) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.newConstructorAccessor(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:103) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.ReflectionFactory.newConstructorAccessor(ReflectionFactory.java:201) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.acquireConstructorAccessor(Constructor.java:547) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:497) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:484) ~[?:?] at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:789) ~[?:?] ... 16 more Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraftforge.api.distmarker.OnlyIn at jdk.internal.loader.BuiltinClassLoader.loadClass(BuiltinClassLoader.java:641) ~[?:?] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:521) ~[?:?] at cpw.mods.cl.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:137) ~[securejarhandler-2.1.10.jar:?] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:521) ~[?:?] at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.RuntimeDistCleaner.<clinit>(RuntimeDistCleaner.java:42) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar%2380!/:1.0] at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized0(Native Method) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.ensureClassInitialized(Unsafe.java:1160) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.ensureClassInitialized(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:300) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.MethodHandleAccessorFactory.newConstructorAccessor(MethodHandleAccessorFactory.java:103) ~[?:?] at jdk.internal.reflect.ReflectionFactory.newConstructorAccessor(ReflectionFactory.java:201) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.acquireConstructorAccessor(Constructor.java:547) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstanceWithCaller(Constructor.java:497) ~[?:?] at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:484) ~[?:?] at java.util.ServiceLoader$ProviderImpl.newInstance(ServiceLoader.java:789) ~[?:?] ... 16 more [14ago2023 18:17:14.190] [main/INFO] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.ImmediateWindowHandler/]: Loading ImmediateWindowProvider fmlearlywindow [14ago2023 18:17:14.761] [main/INFO] [EARLYDISPLAY/]: Trying GL version 4.6 [14ago2023 18:17:15.860] [main/INFO] [EARLYDISPLAY/]: Requested GL version 4.6 got version 4.6 [14ago2023 18:17:16.362] [main/INFO] [optifine.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFineTransformationService.onLoad [14ago2023 18:17:16.369] [main/INFO] [optifine.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFine ZIP file URL: union:/C:/Users/samvv/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/mods/OptiFine_1.20.1_HD_U_I5.jar%23130!/ [14ago2023 18:17:16.400] [main/INFO] [optifine.OptiFineTransformationService/]: OptiFine ZIP file: C:\Users\samvv\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\mods\OptiFine_1.20.1_HD_U_I5.jar [14ago2023 18:17:16.431] [main/INFO] [optifine.OptiFineTransformer/]: Target.PRE_CLASS is available [14ago2023 18:17:16.542] [main/ERROR] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLLoader/CORE]: Dist Cleaner is missing, we need this to run [14ago2023 18:17:16.542] [main/ERROR] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServiceDecorator/MODLAUNCHER]: Service failed to load fml cpw.mods.modlauncher.api.IncompatibleEnvironmentException: Missing DistCleaner, cannot run! at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLLoader.lambda$onInitialLoad$2(FMLLoader.java:94) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] at java.util.Optional.orElseThrow(Optional.java:403) ~[?:?] at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLLoader.onInitialLoad(FMLLoader.java:92) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLServiceProvider.onLoad(FMLServiceProvider.java:100) ~[fmlloader-1.20.1-47.1.0.jar:1.0] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServiceDecorator.onLoad(TransformationServiceDecorator.java:53) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.lambda$loadTransformationServices$11(TransformationServicesHandler.java:116) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at java.util.HashMap$Values.forEach(HashMap.java:1073) ~[?:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.loadTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:116) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler.initializeTransformationServices(TransformationServicesHandler.java:48) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:88) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:78) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:26) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.modlauncher.BootstrapLaunchConsumer.accept(BootstrapLaunchConsumer.java:23) ~[modlauncher-10.0.9.jar:?] at cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher.main(BootstrapLauncher.java:141) ~[bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar:?] [14ago2023 18:17:16.570] [main/ERROR] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.TransformationServicesHandler/MODLAUNCHER]: Found 1 services that failed to load : [fml] Quote
MFMods Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 use java 17 for minecraft 1.18 to 1.20. lose optifine, i understand poor framerate, i intimately understand, but since we now have sodium/lithium (use forge ports), optifine can just go and die. Quote
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