i'm new to the forum so my appologies if I don't have everything right.

 

i've been trying to run any of the forge updates for 1.6.4 and they all are giving me this error on startup:

 

*** MagicMinecraftLauncher 1.1.7 ***

  LCP: C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\Internal Mods\[1.6.4]ReiMinimap_v3.4_01.zip;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\Internal Mods\OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_U_C5.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\versions\1.6.4-Forge9.11.0.901\1.6.4-Forge9.11.0.901.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\minecraftforge\minecraftforge\9.11.0.901\minecraftforge-9.11.0.901.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\minecraft\launchwrapper\1.8\launchwrapper-1.8.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\ow2\asm\asm-all\4.1\asm-all-4.1.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\scala-lang\scala-library\2.10.2\scala-library-2.10.2.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\scala-lang\scala-compiler\2.10.2\scala-compiler-2.10.2.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\lzma\lzma\0.0.1\lzma-0.0.1.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\sf\jopt-simple\jopt-simple\4.5\jopt-simple-4.5.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\paulscode\codecjorbis\20101023\codecjorbis-20101023.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\paulscode\codecwav\20101023\codecwav-20101023.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\paulscode\libraryjavasound\20101123\libraryjavasound-20101123.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\paulscode\librarylwjglopenal\20100824\librarylwjglopenal-20100824.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\paulscode\soundsystem\20120107\soundsystem-20120107.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\argo\argo\2.25_fixed\argo-2.25_fixed.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\bouncycastle\bcprov-jdk15on\1.47\bcprov-jdk15on-1.47.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\google\guava\guava\14.0\guava-14.0.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\apache\commons\commons-lang3\3.1\commons-lang3-3.1.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\commons-io\commons-io\2.4\commons-io-2.4.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\java\jinput\jinput\2.0.5\jinput-2.0.5.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\java\jutils\jutils\1.0.0\jutils-1.0.0.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\com\google\code\gson\gson\2.2.2\gson-2.2.2.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl\2.9.0\lwjgl-2.9.0.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl_util\2.9.0\lwjgl_util-2.9.0.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl-platform\2.9.0\lwjgl-platform-2.9.0-natives-windows.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl\2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3\lwjgl-2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl_util\2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3\lwjgl_util-2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\org\lwjgl\lwjgl\lwjgl-platform\2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3\lwjgl-platform-2.9.1-nightly-20130708-debug3-natives-windows.jar;C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\libraries\net\java\jinput\jinput-platform\2.0.5\jinput-platform-2.0.5-natives-windows.jar

  WindowSize: 1024x768

  WindowMaximized: true

  InactiveExtMods: CodeChickenCore 0.9.0.5.jar;NotEnoughItems 1.6.1.3.jar

  MainClass: net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch

    at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

    at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

    at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

    at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

    at magic.launcher.Launcher.main(Unknown Source)

 

I use magic launcher for my mods, but i've tried running the forge release without magic launcher and without any mods active and still get that error. any ideas?

clean up your .minecraft folder (or just delete it completly) and use official mojang-launcher

then use current Forge-901 installer (proven to be working correctly) and launch forge with official mojang-launcher

 

dont use OptiFine C5 and Rei's MiniMap 3.4 cause both no working correctly yet !

Don't use MagicLauncher it is not properly launching the game.

Use the mojang launcher.

using the mojang launcher can I still have my mods loaded in the folders or do I have to put them in the .jar manually like before?

In the folder...

Forge has never, and will never condone modifying the jar directly for your mods. That would be retarded.

i've had mods before ML was around that required modding the jar. I wanted to make sure I did not have to. I used to HATE modding the jar.

 

[EDIT] forgot to ask, I want to run optifine with my mods and forge but optifine needs to (as far as I can tell) install it's own modded MC like what forge does. my question is, how if at all possible, can you run both optifine and forge at the same time?

Just dump optifine in your mods folder.

ok, not to sound dumb, but does it have to be in the .jar or zipped instead?

 

[EDIT] NVM, got it. I couldn't remember if they needed to be jar or zip, i remember something about mods had to be changed for something now but couldn't remember what way. thank you to all who have helped btw.