How to make a transparent element in model

[trollworkout]

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How to make the water in the vat transparent?

 

Also this json is not working for the SPOUT model

 

{
    "textures": {
        "#0": "blocks/stone"
    },
    "elements": [
        {
            "from": [ 6.5, 7.0, -1.0 ], 
            "to": [ 9.5, 9.0, 3.0 ], 
            "faces": {
                "north": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 4.0, 3.0 ] },
                "east": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 5.0, 3.0 ] },
                "south": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 4.0, 3.0 ] },
                "west": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 5.0, 3.0 ] },
                "up": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 4.0, 5.0 ] },
                "down": { "texture": "#0", "uv": [ 1.0, 1.0, 4.0, 5.0 ] }
            }
        }
    ]
}

 

 

 

Yes is like the Witchery Silver Vat. Is intentionally done that way I'm making a mod  that borrows ideas and mechanics from older and abandoned mods that will never see 1.10 or over.  My mod is completely different tho. I'm not cloning older mods.

[Draco18s]

You need to override:

 

@Override
@SideOnly(Side.CLIENT)
public BlockRenderLayer getBlockLayer() {
	return BlockRenderLayer.TRANSLUCENT;
}

[trollworkout]

I made some progress. Now my water renders properly and animates like still water. The spout now renders as well.

 

When I break the block, however, is still showing transparent texture bits.

 

And I can see some weird glitches some transparent sides from elements are showing through the block. I need to make them completely invisible.

[Draco18s]

Set your particle texture to a different texture.

 

As for the faces rendering wrong, there might not be a solution.

[trollworkout]

Thanks for your help guys. Is getting better.

 

I had no particle texture set so I think that was the issue. Let's see if it works now.

 

Also I figured out I don't need to define faces that are hidden. I erased all faces that will never be seen. Seems to reduce the issue with transparent water + tinting a bit.

 

 

Tinting has some weird ass issues sometimes MC can't decide if water is in front or behind of the objects is tinting (or not tinting). Sometimes water would render on top of your blocks or items even the ones held in hand. Haha So random. But overall is wayyy better.

[trollworkout]

The block layer translucent works 100% but the problem is I think it confuses the game because I only have one element that is translucent  the rest of the object is solid. I guess there is no way to define only parts of the model as being translucent.

[Draco18s]

I guess there is no way to define only parts of the model as being translucent.

 

Not that I am aware of

[trollworkout]

I think the glitches MAY be caused by depth testing. My bounding box seems to be inside my multipart spout element so it confuses the tinting engine.

 

I'll play around with moving spout higher or other system.

 

Yep CONFIRMED.

 

Seems like the TRANSLUCENT uses block bounding box to calculate depth difference. So if you butt two things against one another MC considers them to be colliding meaning is both IN and OUT of the translucent object at the same time. To fix this you need to put the bits you want outside out of the collision box of the object.

 

Making some bits transparent and some not creates a few weird ass issues like some sides may vanish or appear inside one another. There's no way to properly make a model made out of both translucent and opaque elements.

[Draco18s]

There's no way to properly make a model made out of both translucent and opaque elements.

 

Has to do with depth sorting, yeah.  Opaque elements are drawn front to back, translucent back to front.

[Choonster]

You can use the

forge:multi-layer

model to combine other models that are rendered in different layers. I explain this in more detail here.

[trollworkout]

You can use the

forge:multi-layer

model to combine other models that are rendered in different layers. I explain this in more detail here.

 

Thank you. I will deff look into this . Right now it works okayish but with some glitches. Not too bad. After moving the spout 1 cubixel higher is much better

[trollworkout]

Choonster the only issue with this is that my blockstate is in fact multipart

 

because my Vat block connects to a nearby furnace it has a spout piece that depends on wether there is a Furnance next to it and in which direction.

 

Can I use  forge:multi-layer AND multipart at the same time?

[trollworkout]

There's no way to properly make a model made out of both translucent and opaque elements.

 

Has to do with depth sorting, yeah.  Opaque elements are drawn front to back, translucent back to front.

 

 

To fix the sorting issue you need to make an object with no insides. So in my model I deleted all faces that are never visible. Seems to alleviate some of the issues with making the block completely translucent . You can only see the issues when you get really close to it at eye level and even then is not that big of a deal just looks weird but not broken.

 

Also for the water I originally had one block inside my Vat with water tex on all sides but I erased it and only UP face is there now and is the only one with tintindex . So it works like 90% OK but is not perfect.

[Choonster]

Choonster the only issue with this is that my blockstate is in fact multipart

 

because my Vat block connects to a nearby furnace it has a spout piece that depends on wether there is a Furnance next to it and in which direction.

 

Can I use  forge:multi-layer AND multipart at the same time?

 

forge:multi-layer

requires you to use Forge's blockstates format to specify the models it should combine, but you can use submodels instead of multipart blockstates.

[trollworkout]

Choonster the only issue with this is that my blockstate is in fact multipart

 

because my Vat block connects to a nearby furnace it has a spout piece that depends on wether there is a Furnance next to it and in which direction.

 

Can I use  forge:multi-layer AND multipart at the same time?

 

forge:multi-layer

requires you to use Forge's blockstates format to specify the models it should combine, but you can use submodels instead of multipart blockstates.

 

I'm pretty newb and I'm not that advanced. I m happy I got to working this way thus far. I will keep it this way as is more than I hoped for to achieve.

 

However, I will come back at one point and try to do it the proper way. Is deff worth looking into it.

[gurujive]

You should be able to use mcrayfishs model creator to select different texture faces on the same element individually.

 

If you just re-texture the top element with water and then add both the image and mcmeta in your textures. The texture will render animated on the specified element, and the parts that aren't will be whatever you texture them as.

 

possible solution to possible z-fighting appearance:

replace the down north east south west parts of that element with the black part of either the black or white window pane png.

 

Works good with item models. The glass panes may render as black though on a block.

[trollworkout]

You should be able to use mcrayfishs model creator to select different texture faces on the same element individually.

 

If you just re-texture the top element with water and then add both the image and mcmeta in your textures. The texture will render animated on the specified element, and the parts that aren't will be whatever you texture them as.

 

possible solution to possible z-fighting appearance:

replace the down north east south west parts of that element with the black part of either the black or white window pane png.

 

Works good with item models. The glass panes may render as black though on a block.

 

in fact that's exactly what i use. and it does not support forge's blockstate no multi layer format.  you can't even set translucency to an element. i do all that in post.

[gurujive]

Cool beans man I just didn't know if you knew you could add your own custom texture for the block.

Like where your lang and model folders are, you can add one says textures inside it make two folders named entity and block inside of it.

 

Then have your json get it.

{

"ambientocclusion": false,

    "textures": {

        "0": "guru:entity/air_orb",

        "1": "blocks/glass_pane_top_black"

    },

 

 

The mcmeta photos should render partially invisible naturally. like nether portal, water, and lava(ok, maybe not lava).

end_gateways being a multilayered imaged block.

 

anyways, keep it real man!

[trollworkout]

I recently switched it up to forge's own blockstate forge_marker 1 instead of multipart because you can do int properties not just boolean properties and seems much more configurable.

 

So ambientocculsion means simply a semi-transparent look?

[Draco18s]

So ambientocculsion means simply a semi-transparent look?

 

That is most definitely not what that means.

[trollworkout]

I read it means something to do with light distribution algorithm

[trollworkout]

sorry to resurrect this  but I just wanted to say I have tried this and at this time is not possible to do both multipart (using subblocks) and multi-layer at the same time. Translucent models get deleted by subblocks. When subblocks are not present then it works.