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Soya Beans

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I don't know what this is but can someone clarify why the location of the server jar is inside the libraries directory and not outside like it was before? Has something changed and is it possible to revert back to how it was without breaking anything?

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Because of the way Java's module system works you need to start the server with the provided bat(Windows) or sh(Mac/Linux) file.

This is my Forum Signature, I am currently attempting to transform it into a small guide for fixing easier issues using spoiler blocks to keep things tidy.

 

As the most common issue I feel I should put this outside the main bulk:

The only official source for Forge is https://files.minecraftforge.net, and the only site I trust for getting mods is CurseForge.

If you use any site other than these, please take a look at the StopModReposts project and install their browser extension, I would also advise running a virus scan.

 

For players asking for assistance with Forge please expand the spoiler below and read the appropriate section(s) in its/their entirety.

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Logs (Most issues require logs to diagnose):

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Please post logs using one of the following sites (Thank you Lumber Wizard for the list):

https://gist.github.com/: 100MB Requires member (Free)

https://pastebin.com/: 512KB as guest, 10MB as Pro ($$$)

https://hastebin.com/: 400KB

Do NOT use sites like Mediafire, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, or a site that has a countdown before offering downloads.

 

What to provide:

...for Crashes and Runtime issues:

Minecraft 1.14.4 and newer:

Post debug.log

Older versions:

Please update...

 

...for Installer Issues:

Post your installer log, found in the same place you ran the installer

This log will be called either installer.log or named the same as the installer but with .log on the end

Note for Windows users:

Windows hides file extensions by default so the installer may appear without the .jar extension then when the .log is added the log will appear with the .jar extension

 

Where to get it:

Mojang Launcher: When using the Mojang launcher debug.log is found in .minecraft\logs.

 

Curse/Overwolf: If you are using the Curse Launcher, their configurations break Forge's log settings, fortunately there is an easier workaround than I originally thought, this works even with Curse's installation of the Minecraft launcher as long as it is not launched THROUGH Twitch:

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  1. Make sure you have the correct version of Forge installed (some packs are heavily dependent on one specific build of Forge)
  2. Make a launcher profile targeting this version of Forge.
  3. Set the launcher profile's GameDir property to the pack's instance folder (not the instances folder, the folder that has the pack's name on it).
  4. Now launch the pack through that profile and follow the "Mojang Launcher" instructions above.

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or alternately, 

 

Fallback ("No logs are generated"):

If you don't see logs generated in the usual place, provide the launcher_log.txt from .minecraft

 

Server Not Starting:

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If your server does not start or a command window appears and immediately goes away, run the jar manually and provide the output.

 

Reporting Illegal/Inappropriate Adfocus Ads:

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Get a screenshot of the URL bar or copy/paste the whole URL into a thread on the General Discussion board with a description of the Ad.

Lex will need the Ad ID contained in that URL to report it to Adfocus' support team.

 

Posting your mod as a GitHub Repo:

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When you have an issue with your mod the most helpful thing you can do when asking for help is to provide your code to those helping you. The most convenient way to do this is via GitHub or another source control hub.

When setting up a GitHub Repo it might seem easy to just upload everything, however this method has the potential for mistakes that could lead to trouble later on, it is recommended to use a Git client or to get comfortable with the Git command line. The following instructions will use the Git Command Line and as such they assume you already have it installed and that you have created a repository.

 

  1. Open a command prompt (CMD, Powershell, Terminal, etc).
  2. Navigate to the folder you extracted Forge’s MDK to (the one that had all the licenses in).
  3. Run the following commands:
    1. git init
    2. git remote add origin [Your Repository's URL]
      • In the case of GitHub it should look like: https://GitHub.com/[Your Username]/[Repo Name].git
    3. git fetch
    4. git checkout --track origin/master
    5. git stage *
    6. git commit -m "[Your commit message]"
    7. git push
  4. Navigate to GitHub and you should now see most of the files.
    • note that it is intentional that some are not synced with GitHub and this is done with the (hidden) .gitignore file that Forge’s MDK has provided (hence the strictness on which folder git init is run from)
  5. Now you can share your GitHub link with those who you are asking for help.

[Workaround line, please ignore]

 

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LexManos

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It moved to the libraries folder because we got sick of people being dumb running the vanilla jar instead of Forge's thus causing their world to loose mod data and the like.
We've wanted to do this for years, but kept getting push back from server hosts who were too lazy to change how they delt with their server layouts.
Now that we are forced to change how the server launches due to Java's Modular system, we decided to do it.
Why would you want it moved back? It should not effect you in any way where it is located.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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Soya Beans

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Yes, but server hosts that have it the old way and now have to support both ways if users want older versions. It just make it harder and longer to work with. Take for example ptero eggs that support the old way for now if they want to support both ways then the installation would have to check the version for that specific version so it can use the new way to run the version. You can make two eggs but that just is a bit bad. Some hosts don't use eggs and rely on scripts that look for jars instead to work.

LexManos Reality Controller

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They have to support multiple ways of installing things as is. Cuz ya know, the 7 year jump in technology that happened in when they bumped from java 8 to java 16.
Things had to change due to factors outside our control, so sucks to be a server provider but you're gunna have to actually do some work instead of just raking in the cash for doing nothing.
It's not like it's even a hard change, we've done everything for them. They literally just have to run a shell script.

Again, why do you care? Are you a server provider? If so stop being lazy. If not, then it doesn't matter to you.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

Soya Beans Tree Puncher

Soya Beans

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Also you guys have said you wanted to do this years before but hosts were too lazy or something. So how long ago in forge versions was it that you wanted to do this?

Also if you don't like answering don't answer.

LexManos Reality Controller

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Keep avoiding answering my question by asking other unrelated questions.
But i'll humor you. It's been something we've been thinking of doing ever since the first person ran the wrong jar. So probably about the 1.3 days.
So, now answer my question.

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I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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