Installer quits with message "You need to run the version 1.8 manually at least once".

The problem is, I have. Anyone know what I need to do to get round this?

 

OS - Linux Mint 17.1

Renamed .minecraft folder to .maincraft_BAK

Downloaded fresh Minecraft.jar

Ran it - it created a new .Minecraft folder, logged in, it ran version 1.81, I created a new world, etc

Downloaded forge-1.8-11.14.0.1299-installer.jar, made it executable and ran it from inside the .Minecraft Folder

Installer quits with message "You need to run the version 1.8 manually at least once".

 

Checked in Versions and I have a folder 1.81 with one item,  a .jar file

 

Contents of latest log

 

[14:28:55] [Client thread/INFO]: Setting user: creeperlover654

[14:28:55] [Client thread/INFO]: (Session ID is token:a61f3806f06140f9bc27491ccc5f58c6:68c1ae31b1a2419f9c33d758aad97266)

[14:29:01] [Client thread/INFO]: LWJGL Version: 2.9.1

[14:29:02] [Client thread/INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default

[14:29:03] [Client thread/ERROR]: Couldn't initialize twitch stream

[14:29:03] [sound Library Loader/INFO]: Starting up SoundSystem...

[14:29:03] [Thread-5/INFO]: Initializing LWJGL OpenAL

[14:29:03] [Thread-5/INFO]: (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL.  For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org)

[14:29:03] [Thread-5/INFO]: OpenAL initialized.

[14:29:03] [sound Library Loader/INFO]: Sound engine started

[14:29:12] [Client thread/INFO]: Created: 512x512 textures-atlas

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Starting integrated minecraft server version 1.8.1

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Generating keypair

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Converting map!

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Scanning folders...

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Total conversion count is 0

[14:29:30] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing start region for level 0

[14:29:31] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 2%

[14:29:32] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 4%

[14:29:33] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 6%

[14:29:34] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 8%

[14:29:35] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 10%

[14:29:36] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 12%

[14:29:37] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 15%

[14:29:38] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 18%

[14:29:39] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 21%

[14:29:40] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 23%

[14:29:41] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 26%

[14:29:42] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 30%

[14:29:43] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 34%

[14:29:44] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 39%

[14:29:45] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 44%

[14:29:46] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 48%

[14:29:47] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 51%

[14:29:48] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 55%

[14:29:49] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 58%

[14:29:50] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 63%

[14:29:51] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 67%

[14:29:52] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 71%

[14:29:53] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 77%

[14:29:54] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 81%

[14:29:55] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 85%

[14:29:56] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 90%

[14:29:57] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 95%

[14:29:58] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 99%

[14:29:59] [server thread/INFO]: Changing view distance to 8, from 10

[14:30:00] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654[local:E:33c16d90] logged in with entity id 214 at (143.5, 99.0, 105.5)

[14:30:00] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 joined the game

[14:30:12] [server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 12531ms behind, skipping 250 tick(s)

[14:30:19] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Taking Inventory]

[14:30:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Taking Inventory]

[14:30:32] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Getting Wood]

[14:30:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Getting Wood]

[14:30:35] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:30:35] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:30:37] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:30:37] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:30:37] [server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 15820ms behind, skipping 316 tick(s)

[14:31:21] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [benchmarking]

[14:31:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [benchmarking]

[14:31:25] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:31:25] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:31:25] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:31:25] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:31:29] [server thread/INFO]: Changing difficulty to PEACEFUL, from NORMAL

[14:31:29] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:31:29] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:31:29] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:31:29] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:31:32] [server thread/INFO]: Changing difficulty to EASY, from PEACEFUL

[14:31:37] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:31:37] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:31:38] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:31:38] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Stopping server

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving players

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving worlds

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:31:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:31:44] [server thread/INFO]: Starting integrated minecraft server version 1.8.1

[14:31:44] [server thread/INFO]: Generating keypair

[14:31:44] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing start region for level 0

[14:31:45] [server thread/INFO]: Preparing spawn area: 60%

[14:31:46] [server thread/INFO]: Changing view distance to 8, from 10

[14:31:46] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654[local:E:12817780] logged in with entity id 10329 at (135.82271831981512, 81.1707870772188, 67.96232651127286)

[14:31:46] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 joined the game

[14:31:53] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:31:53] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:31:53] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:31:53] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:32:39] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Time to Mine!]

[14:32:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Time to Mine!]

[14:33:13] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Hot Topic]

[14:33:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Hot Topic]

[14:33:19] [server thread/INFO]: creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Getting an Upgrade]

[14:33:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] creeperlover654 has just earned the achievement [Getting an Upgrade]

[14:34:08] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:34:08] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:34:08] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:34:08] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:35:14] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:35:14] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:35:15] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:35:15] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:35:18] [server thread/INFO]: Changing difficulty to PEACEFUL, from EASY

[14:35:35] [server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 2753ms behind, skipping 55 tick(s)

[14:36:21] [server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 2931ms behind, skipping 58 tick(s)

[14:36:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving and pausing game...

[14:36:39] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:36:40] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:36:40] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Stopping server

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Saving players

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Saving worlds

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Overworld

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/Nether

[14:36:41] [server thread/INFO]: Saving chunks for level 'New World'/The End

[14:36:43] [Client thread/INFO]: Stopping!

[14:36:43] [Client thread/INFO]: SoundSystem shutting down...

[14:36:43] [Client thread/WARN]: Author: Paul Lamb, www.paulscode.com

 

 

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Starting integrated minecraft server version 1.8.1

Downloaded forge-1.8-11.14.0.1299-installer.jar,

"You need to run the version 1.8 manually at least once".

Think about it....

 

[14:29:28] [server thread/INFO]: Starting integrated minecraft server version 1.8.1

Downloaded forge-1.8-11.14.0.1299-installer.jar,

"You need to run the version 1.8 manually at least once".

Think about it....

Good point.

 

But honestly, that is a bit ambiguous. Version numbers are sometimes used in a way that 1.8 = 1.8.x. Now of course you wouldn't expect 1.8.4 work with 1.8.1 or something but since this is just setting up the Minecraft default files and the 1.8.x .jar isn't even used as far as the used is concerned, it seems like a reasonable assumption.

 

Might it be worth making the error message more informative, e.g. "1.8 (not 1.8.x)" instead?

 

This is kind of like saying you should measure 2 ml instead of 2.0 ml, which indicates a difference in the required precision of the measuring instrument. Program version numbers unfortunately aren't always this precise because 1.8 is how you would write "1.8.0."

No. There is no such thing as minecraft 1.8.0

we refer to them exactly as mojang does.

if you cant understand basic names then in sorry i cant help you.

this is always how it has been done in minecraft and as it always will be EVERY version of mc is unique and does not work with any other.

 

And no i will not retroactily rebuild all of the installers because people are to dumb to read and assume things they shouldnt.

and as for your argument that adding a .0 is "more precise" in measurents, this is flat out wrong. "Add 2 gallons" is NOT the same as "add 2.999999999999 gallons"

That's what I said — you don't say 1.8.0, you say 1.8. But a 1.8 release does not mean the 1.8 release. It could be the 1.8.4 release. Hence the potential for confusion.

 

And I do agree that there is no point in modifying already-released installers. I didn't mean you should do that. For, say, a 1.9 release, that could be worthwhile, of course that is assuming the error messages are easily modifiable which may not be true.

 

If you measure 2.00001 ml then that's clearly different from 2.0 ml. The latter has an implied uncertainty of like ±0.05 ml and for the former it's ±0.000005 ml (not exactly like that but it shows the idea).

Yes.. 1.8 does mean THE 1.8.

Its jot something worth arguing. Future versions of the installer (or well any version as of two months ago) dont require you to manually run mc before hand.

I still cant understand how people can be so stupid and get confused but whatever.