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scottnlisarogers@gmail.com Tree Puncher

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Things I found out for Myself and was unable to find on the web.

1.  When you have Downloaded everything run the MineCraft_server.XXX.XXX.XXX.jar  file first

      it will install the needed files and folders.

2.  Run the forge-X.XX.X-XX.X.XX.jar file, this will install required files to run Mods on the server.

3.  Change eula.txt. from false to true.

4.  Copy your Forge mod you want to the mods directory of the server, the files from within the Forge mod's directory you want to the mods directory in the server directory.

5.  Starting the Server. Go to the server directory run the minecraft_server.x.xx.x file not the forge-x.xx.x-xx.x.xx file.

Your server will start normally. login to see your changes.

Now if some one has made abetter launcher for the server chime in. I'm a network person not a programmer. DWDM is fun to me not Programming.

scottnlisarogers@gmail.com Tree Puncher

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No i didn't see. #2 if the finish of the install running the forge jar. #3 are the files after running the forge file and as you see it's 205 KB not much there. try to run it and nothing happens. well the file is a director not an application. they give you the minecraft server file on the Forge jar when you run it #4. When you run the MC file the eula shows up and more files #5. #6 change the eula to true and run the forge file...nothing run the MCS file and  #6. number 7 shows all the files that were installed from the forge jar. you must run the MCS from its file not the forge file.

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The point dieseiben is trying to make, is that your first step is unneeded. Not that it is doing something wrong.

You can completely skip the first step and the eula.txt will be generated when you run Forge for the first time.

Or more specifically, since you skipped it in your install steps. Step 1) should be to run Forge's installer jar.

And yes, Forge's jar in the root is only 205KB As it's just the boot strap code. The rest of Forge lives in the libraries folder along side all the other libraries.

 

After running the Forge installer, you should NEVER run the vanilla jar again. Especially when you have an existing world. As it would remove all modded content from your world. We've debated moving the vanilla jar into the libraries folder so people arnt tempted to run it. Unfortunately there are too many server companies that expect the jar to be there for it to be a sensible change.

 

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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2 hours ago, LexManos said:

The point dieseiben is trying to make, is that your first step is unneeded. Not that it is doing something wrong.

You can completely skip the first step and the eula.txt will be generated when you run Forge for the first time.

Or more specifically, since you skipped it in your install steps. Step 1) should be to run Forge's installer jar.

And yes, Forge's jar in the root is only 205KB As it's just the boot strap code. The rest of Forge lives in the libraries folder along side all the other libraries.

 

After running the Forge installer, you should NEVER run the vanilla jar again. Especially when you have an existing world. As it would remove all modded content from your world. We've debated moving the vanilla jar into the libraries folder so people arnt tempted to run it. Unfortunately there are too many server companies that expect the jar to be there for it to be a sensible change.

 

running it no eula.txt is not generated. yes i did install the forge installer first

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Was the vanilla server open every time you tried to start Forge?

This is my Forum Signature, I am currently attempting to transform it into a small guide for fixing easier issues using spoiler blocks to keep things tidy.

 

As the most common issue I feel I should put this outside the main bulk:

The only official source for Forge is https://files.minecraftforge.net, and the only site I trust for getting mods is CurseForge.

If you use any site other than these, please take a look at the StopModReposts project and install their browser extension, I would also advise running a virus scan.

 

For players asking for assistance with Forge please expand the spoiler below and read the appropriate section(s) in its/their entirety.

Spoiler

Logs (Most issues require logs to diagnose):

Spoiler

Please post logs using one of the following sites (Thank you Lumber Wizard for the list):

https://gist.github.com/: 100MB Requires member (Free)

https://pastebin.com/: 512KB as guest, 10MB as Pro ($$$)

https://hastebin.com/: 400KB

Do NOT use sites like Mediafire, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, or a site that has a countdown before offering downloads.

 

What to provide:

...for Crashes and Runtime issues:

Minecraft 1.14.4 and newer:

Post debug.log

Older versions:

Please update...

 

...for Installer Issues:

Post your installer log, found in the same place you ran the installer

This log will be called either installer.log or named the same as the installer but with .log on the end

Note for Windows users:

Windows hides file extensions by default so the installer may appear without the .jar extension then when the .log is added the log will appear with the .jar extension

 

Where to get it:

Mojang Launcher: When using the Mojang launcher debug.log is found in .minecraft\logs.

 

Curse/Overwolf: If you are using the Curse Launcher, their configurations break Forge's log settings, fortunately there is an easier workaround than I originally thought, this works even with Curse's installation of the Minecraft launcher as long as it is not launched THROUGH Twitch:

Spoiler
  1. Make sure you have the correct version of Forge installed (some packs are heavily dependent on one specific build of Forge)
  2. Make a launcher profile targeting this version of Forge.
  3. Set the launcher profile's GameDir property to the pack's instance folder (not the instances folder, the folder that has the pack's name on it).
  4. Now launch the pack through that profile and follow the "Mojang Launcher" instructions above.

Video:

Spoiler

 

 

 

or alternately, 

 

Fallback ("No logs are generated"):

If you don't see logs generated in the usual place, provide the launcher_log.txt from .minecraft

 

Server Not Starting:

Spoiler

If your server does not start or a command window appears and immediately goes away, run the jar manually and provide the output.

 

Reporting Illegal/Inappropriate Adfocus Ads:

Spoiler

Get a screenshot of the URL bar or copy/paste the whole URL into a thread on the General Discussion board with a description of the Ad.

Lex will need the Ad ID contained in that URL to report it to Adfocus' support team.

 

Posting your mod as a GitHub Repo:

Spoiler

When you have an issue with your mod the most helpful thing you can do when asking for help is to provide your code to those helping you. The most convenient way to do this is via GitHub or another source control hub.

When setting up a GitHub Repo it might seem easy to just upload everything, however this method has the potential for mistakes that could lead to trouble later on, it is recommended to use a Git client or to get comfortable with the Git command line. The following instructions will use the Git Command Line and as such they assume you already have it installed and that you have created a repository.

 

  1. Open a command prompt (CMD, Powershell, Terminal, etc).
  2. Navigate to the folder you extracted Forge’s MDK to (the one that had all the licenses in).
  3. Run the following commands:
    1. git init
    2. git remote add origin [Your Repository's URL]
      • In the case of GitHub it should look like: https://GitHub.com/[Your Username]/[Repo Name].git
    3. git fetch
    4. git checkout --track origin/master
    5. git stage *
    6. git commit -m "[Your commit message]"
    7. git push
  4. Navigate to GitHub and you should now see most of the files.
    • note that it is intentional that some are not synced with GitHub and this is done with the (hidden) .gitignore file that Forge’s MDK has provided (hence the strictness on which folder git init is run from)
  5. Now you can share your GitHub link with those who you are asking for help.

[Workaround line, please ignore]

 

scottnlisarogers@gmail.com Tree Puncher

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Nope I tried as you see in the video starting it before I installed the MCS. Nothing then I installed the MCS then I updated the eula that was missing on the forge install. The forge work work then so I started the The vanilla server dang she works. And runs the mods if I have mod files in the mod directory. 

DaemonUmbra Reality Controller

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Start clean again with installing Forge and running it, then instead of running vanilla, provide the debug.log via one of the paste sites in my signature below.

The process generates the eula.txt as expected on my machine, so it must be something about your setup and I'm hoping the debug.log can shed some light.

This is my Forum Signature, I am currently attempting to transform it into a small guide for fixing easier issues using spoiler blocks to keep things tidy.

 

As the most common issue I feel I should put this outside the main bulk:

The only official source for Forge is https://files.minecraftforge.net, and the only site I trust for getting mods is CurseForge.

If you use any site other than these, please take a look at the StopModReposts project and install their browser extension, I would also advise running a virus scan.

 

For players asking for assistance with Forge please expand the spoiler below and read the appropriate section(s) in its/their entirety.

Spoiler

Logs (Most issues require logs to diagnose):

Spoiler

Please post logs using one of the following sites (Thank you Lumber Wizard for the list):

https://gist.github.com/: 100MB Requires member (Free)

https://pastebin.com/: 512KB as guest, 10MB as Pro ($$$)

https://hastebin.com/: 400KB

Do NOT use sites like Mediafire, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, or a site that has a countdown before offering downloads.

 

What to provide:

...for Crashes and Runtime issues:

Minecraft 1.14.4 and newer:

Post debug.log

Older versions:

Please update...

 

...for Installer Issues:

Post your installer log, found in the same place you ran the installer

This log will be called either installer.log or named the same as the installer but with .log on the end

Note for Windows users:

Windows hides file extensions by default so the installer may appear without the .jar extension then when the .log is added the log will appear with the .jar extension

 

Where to get it:

Mojang Launcher: When using the Mojang launcher debug.log is found in .minecraft\logs.

 

Curse/Overwolf: If you are using the Curse Launcher, their configurations break Forge's log settings, fortunately there is an easier workaround than I originally thought, this works even with Curse's installation of the Minecraft launcher as long as it is not launched THROUGH Twitch:

Spoiler
  1. Make sure you have the correct version of Forge installed (some packs are heavily dependent on one specific build of Forge)
  2. Make a launcher profile targeting this version of Forge.
  3. Set the launcher profile's GameDir property to the pack's instance folder (not the instances folder, the folder that has the pack's name on it).
  4. Now launch the pack through that profile and follow the "Mojang Launcher" instructions above.

Video:

Spoiler

 

 

 

or alternately, 

 

Fallback ("No logs are generated"):

If you don't see logs generated in the usual place, provide the launcher_log.txt from .minecraft

 

Server Not Starting:

Spoiler

If your server does not start or a command window appears and immediately goes away, run the jar manually and provide the output.

 

Reporting Illegal/Inappropriate Adfocus Ads:

Spoiler

Get a screenshot of the URL bar or copy/paste the whole URL into a thread on the General Discussion board with a description of the Ad.

Lex will need the Ad ID contained in that URL to report it to Adfocus' support team.

 

Posting your mod as a GitHub Repo:

Spoiler

When you have an issue with your mod the most helpful thing you can do when asking for help is to provide your code to those helping you. The most convenient way to do this is via GitHub or another source control hub.

When setting up a GitHub Repo it might seem easy to just upload everything, however this method has the potential for mistakes that could lead to trouble later on, it is recommended to use a Git client or to get comfortable with the Git command line. The following instructions will use the Git Command Line and as such they assume you already have it installed and that you have created a repository.

 

  1. Open a command prompt (CMD, Powershell, Terminal, etc).
  2. Navigate to the folder you extracted Forge’s MDK to (the one that had all the licenses in).
  3. Run the following commands:
    1. git init
    2. git remote add origin [Your Repository's URL]
      • In the case of GitHub it should look like: https://GitHub.com/[Your Username]/[Repo Name].git
    3. git fetch
    4. git checkout --track origin/master
    5. git stage *
    6. git commit -m "[Your commit message]"
    7. git push
  4. Navigate to GitHub and you should now see most of the files.
    • note that it is intentional that some are not synced with GitHub and this is done with the (hidden) .gitignore file that Forge’s MDK has provided (hence the strictness on which folder git init is run from)
  5. Now you can share your GitHub link with those who you are asking for help.

[Workaround line, please ignore]

 

LexManos Reality Controller

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Just for sanities sake, I tested locally, and it indeed does work the way we intended it on my machine.

 

Do you perhaps have a over-zealous antivirus or something that is causing the java process to be blocked?

And as Daemon said, log files would be helpful.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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Sounds good, Forge runs fine on linux if that's a option for you. It even works in headless mode just like the normal server. 

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

LexManos Reality Controller

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Ah, you've got java 15 installed. Forge uses javascript, which was removed from java 15. So use java 8-14. Or add the supplemental nashorn libraries back into your java.

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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