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To me, the first post in Support and Bug Reports, titled, "Rules and EAQ - READ FIRST OR YOU WILL GET BANNED". Is it just me or do some of the things there seem a bit aggressive and otherwise "overkill"?

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Fair enough, but to me, for new coders, like me, it's a little aggressive, because I use W3Schools for my coding, and sometimes it can be confusing(and its even more so with me being low scale autistic). I just was wondering, x D

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I mean, even now. I'm currently working on a mod I call, "Ores Plus"(and yes, I know 1.17 is adding new ores, but my mod, in theory, will have ores 1.17 doesn't, e.g. I'm planning on adding amethyst) and I don't exactly understand classes, objects, attributes, and a few other things, and in order for me to be able to successfully create this mod, even a pretty bad v1.0, I'm going to need a lot of help, and I like to turn to other people, because a lot of times, W3Schools words it to where other people can word it simpler, x D 

 

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Again you are expected to understand the java side of the issues you're raising.

We are not a school for basic java. We CAN address things specifically related to Minecraft/Forge. However the bulk of the issues come down to "You need to call this method" "Code no compile!" "You're trying to pass a string into a int.. that is not something we need to help you with"

 

Either way, the specifics of that example/code  examples has nothing to do with your initial message. It may be aggressive to you. But we don't really care about that. Things being 'overly aggressive' is purely subjective. Hell, it doesn't even work, 90% of the issues posted in tech support don't follow those rules. Either way, do you have something constructive to contribute or are you just wanting to let us know you feel a thread title is 'aggressive'?

I do Forge for free, however the servers to run it arn't free, so anything is appreciated.
Consider supporting the team on Patreon

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On 5/7/2021 at 10:06 AM, Draco_Magnus said:

Fair enough, but to me, for new coders, like me, it's a little aggressive, because I use W3Schools for my coding, and sometimes it can be confusing(and its even more so with me being low scale autistic). I just was wondering, x D

I know this post is relatively ancient and all but please for the love of all good things, NOBODY SHOULD USE W3SCHOOLS EVER.

  1. It is not associated with w3.org
  2. It is full of OUTRIGHT WRONG INFORMATION
  3. It is a Bad Website and will teach you Bad Code, and anyone else who stumbles on this thread should know this.

I'm all for using lots of reference and tutorial websites and examples when learning to code, but not W3Schools. Please. Anything else.

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19 hours ago, InspectorCaracal said:
  • It is full of OUTRIGHT WRONG INFORMATION
  • It is a Bad Website and will teach you Bad Code, and anyone else who stumbles on this thread should know this.

Care to cite your sources?

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This is my Forum Signature, I am currently attempting to transform it into a small guide for fixing easier issues using spoiler blocks to keep things tidy.

 

As the most common issue I feel I should put this outside the main bulk:

The only official source for Forge is https://files.minecraftforge.net, and the only site I trust for getting mods is CurseForge.

If you use any site other than these, please take a look at the StopModReposts project and install their browser extension, I would also advise running a virus scan.

 

For players asking for assistance with Forge please expand the spoiler below and read the appropriate section(s) in its/their entirety.

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Logs (Most issues require logs to diagnose):

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Please post logs using one of the following sites (Thank you Lumber Wizard for the list):

https://gist.github.com/: 100MB Requires member (Free)

https://pastebin.com/: 512KB as guest, 10MB as Pro ($$$)

https://hastebin.com/: 400KB

Do NOT use sites like Mediafire, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, or a site that has a countdown before offering downloads.

 

What to provide:

...for Crashes and Runtime issues:

Minecraft 1.14.4 and newer:

Post debug.log

Older versions:

Please update...

 

...for Installer Issues:

Post your installer log, found in the same place you ran the installer

This log will be called either installer.log or named the same as the installer but with .log on the end

Note for Windows users:

Windows hides file extensions by default so the installer may appear without the .jar extension then when the .log is added the log will appear with the .jar extension

 

Where to get it:

Mojang Launcher: When using the Mojang launcher debug.log is found in .minecraft\logs.

 

Curse/Overwolf: If you are using the Curse Launcher, their configurations break Forge's log settings, fortunately there is an easier workaround than I originally thought, this works even with Curse's installation of the Minecraft launcher as long as it is not launched THROUGH Twitch:

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  1. Make sure you have the correct version of Forge installed (some packs are heavily dependent on one specific build of Forge)
  2. Make a launcher profile targeting this version of Forge.
  3. Set the launcher profile's GameDir property to the pack's instance folder (not the instances folder, the folder that has the pack's name on it).
  4. Now launch the pack through that profile and follow the "Mojang Launcher" instructions above.

Video:

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or alternately, 

 

Fallback ("No logs are generated"):

If you don't see logs generated in the usual place, provide the launcher_log.txt from .minecraft

 

Server Not Starting:

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If your server does not start or a command window appears and immediately goes away, run the jar manually and provide the output.

 

Reporting Illegal/Inappropriate Adfocus Ads:

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Get a screenshot of the URL bar or copy/paste the whole URL into a thread on the General Discussion board with a description of the Ad.

Lex will need the Ad ID contained in that URL to report it to Adfocus' support team.

 

Posting your mod as a GitHub Repo:

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When you have an issue with your mod the most helpful thing you can do when asking for help is to provide your code to those helping you. The most convenient way to do this is via GitHub or another source control hub.

When setting up a GitHub Repo it might seem easy to just upload everything, however this method has the potential for mistakes that could lead to trouble later on, it is recommended to use a Git client or to get comfortable with the Git command line. The following instructions will use the Git Command Line and as such they assume you already have it installed and that you have created a repository.

 

  1. Open a command prompt (CMD, Powershell, Terminal, etc).
  2. Navigate to the folder you extracted Forge’s MDK to (the one that had all the licenses in).
  3. Run the following commands:
    1. git init
    2. git remote add origin [Your Repository's URL]
      • In the case of GitHub it should look like: https://GitHub.com/[Your Username]/[Repo Name].git
    3. git fetch
    4. git checkout --track origin/master
    5. git stage *
    6. git commit -m "[Your commit message]"
    7. git push
  4. Navigate to GitHub and you should now see most of the files.
    • note that it is intentional that some are not synced with GitHub and this is done with the (hidden) .gitignore file that Forge’s MDK has provided (hence the strictness on which folder git init is run from)
  5. Now you can share your GitHub link with those who you are asking for help.

[Workaround line, please ignore]

 

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