Request: 4096 Adoption

[Whist34]

Request: Forge take over 4096 support and updates.

 

4096 mod Status:

[*]Robinton no longer updates and has released his code as open source for moders:

https://github.com/ScottKillen/Robinton-s-4096IDs

 

I have no idea how to use this open source as an end user. It appears that it is all java code that has to be added into a mod and compiled, etc. Above my ability level.

 

[*]mDiyo no longer maintains the 4096 fix mod either. The beta is v4.2 and does not work with the latest Forge releases (I had to roll back to Forge 108 to find a Forge version that works with mDiyo's 4096 AND does not cause Buildcraft to throw texture errors repeatedly.

mDiyo 4096fix:  http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/521617-125-inficraft/

mDiyo Statement about ending modding: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/521617-125-inficraft/page__view__findpost__p__14809878

 

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Since this "fix" does not appear to be on Mojang's radar for the infinite future (I could rant here, but I won't) - Is there any possibility that the programmers working on Forge could take this over and keep it up-to-date as Forge updates the class that 4096 utilizes?

 

Thank you!

[LexManos]

Short answer: No

Long answer: Maybe

 

Beyond that, not going to discuss it.

[ScottKillen]

I gather there is more here than we are aware. We should trust that Lex will let us know what we need to know when the time comes. Until then, watch my github for updates...working on it now.

[loordgek]

minecraft 12w 07a

 

 

    Added new world file format called “Anvil” (256 max height and 4096 block IDs*)

 

* The game can’t use the full range of IDs yet because there are still some assumptions that IDs above 256 are items.

 

    Multi-player light calculations do no longer cause affected blocks to be transmitted to the clients, instead the clients will recalculate the light on their own

 

    Villagers will repopulate villages based on how many houses there are available

 

    Some nights in villages will be worse than others…

 

    Added a redstone-controlled light source

 

    Decreased chance for the rare mob drops

 

    All animals use the new AI system now

 

http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/minecraft-snapshot-12w07a/

[ScottKillen]

Please elaborate. This is the changelog from an old Minecraft snapshot.

[loordgek]

4096 is now part of minecraftl. but not working

 

(hope the fix it in mc 1.3)

[ScottKillen]

That part is established fact. Robinton and mDiyo completed 4096 id support in different ways in their respective mods, so this thread is about the suggestion that functionality should be included in Forge. you can see LexManos response above.

[LexManos]

Scott, and chance you could get me a proper diff of what exactly Robinton does for his '4096 fix'?

AE: Generate a patch between clean MC and his fix, should get you something like: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28221422/4096.patch

[ScottKillen]

Yes, but it will take me a bit. So...36 hours soon enough?

 

Maybe sooner.

[LexManos]

Ya I dont plan on doing anything major untill my new HDD arrives and it doesn't take 45 mins to setup MCP u.u

And won't do any actual work till after the next Forge release.

[ScottKillen]

And I thought 10 mins was slow... 

 

Yah, I'll help you with anything you need...

[ScottKillen]

Here you go:

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?66ba6iznlr0qjr1

 

(I included his hook source as well.)

[LexManos]

That is useless, Sending me the same patch file I generated doesnt help.. at all..

[ScottKillen]

Sorry for the mistake. Please see the attached.

4096.patch.txt

[darkhog]

Did I make thread like this there? Yes I did: http://minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/topic,266.0.html ! Please use search function some more (@mods, maybe thread merge?).

 

Also I am 100% for that to be bundled with Forge as it will help both modders (they will have more ids use, so smaller probability that two mods will use same ID, except those that are already made) and players (hopefully lesser amount of block config errors).

 

IMO some kind of ID Resolver solution for newly installed mods, perhaps based on Redpower's autoassign code would be good from player's standpoint. And by newly installed mods I mean mods with no config files, so mods that you have or had installed and your worlds should be safe. Bu this is offtopic.

[ScottKillen]

Whist actually put some work into his proposal, while your thread just asks a question. Your post here is longer than your original post on that thread. Furthermore, on your thread, Lex ended the discussion. It would be silly to merge threads.

 

ID Resolver may be useful to players, but causes all kinds of havoc and support issues for mod developers. Also, RedPower's code and ID Resolver are completely unrelated and do not function in the same way. If Lex is going to implement this, trust him to do it correctly.

[minimatt1994]

Kudos to the Forge team for adding 4096 Support!

 

In the changelog on the github you state that you've based it off of Mdiyo's work. Does that mean that ID 0-255 are blocks, and 256-4095 can be both blocks and items? If that's the case, do you change the vanilla ID's to something >4096 or do they remain in place?

 

@ScottKillen: RP2's ID-code and IDResolver are indeed incompatible. If you have both, you need (from experience) to edit every ID manually to make it work. Otherwise several items will be allocated to the same ID, and several blocks as well (also using Mdiyo's fix (4.2), IDresolver and Forge .97)

[ScottKillen]

Thanks, Matt I understand that they are compatible, but darkhog implied they were related:

 

IMO some kind of ID Resolver solution for newly installed mods, perhaps based on Redpower's autoassign code would be good from player's standpoint. And by newly installed mods I mean mods with no config files, so mods that you have or had installed and your worlds should be safe. Bu this is offtopic.

 

I was trying to point out that it isn't as easy to combine the two as he seemed to be saying.