The New Forums

[Draco18s 2414]

You get a distinct "MEH" from me for the look and feel. That was until I found the "jump to new post" button being waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off to the right from the thread title, past the number of views, number of replies author, and post date. Jesus christ, that is the worst location. In terms of functionality, I had to edit the fucking HTML just to make this thread. Take a wild guess where the "this is where your post content goes" text field is. That's right, it's hidden. Good jorb Invision Power Services. Well at least it'll keep people who don't know how to code from posting threads at least...if completely infuriate everyone else. Oh jesus fucking christ. Unhiding the text area makes it 3 lines tall and the entire screen wide and if I resize it larger it covers up the submit button. REVERT. REVERT. ABORT. RETRY. FAIL.

[Draco18s 2414]

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT STRIPS CARRIAGE RETURNS.

[LexManos 1620]

The new forums are being worked on, the themes will get cleaned up as we go.

Small growing pains, but feel free to continue on this topic with things you find and we'll address them in time.

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

Would suggest being nice though - considering I've seen no other reports of this issue from anyone else. The base text area is intended to be hidden, as the javascript editor inserts content into it dynamically. Pretty standard with editors like TinyMCE, Summernote etc.

It's likely that the editor didn't fire on load for whatever reason. Definitely have plenty to fix up - just be constructive and abide by the general rule of thumb: Don't be a dick.

Thanks :]

EDIT: We should have style fixes this weekend when Paleo gets time to update - otherwise I'll implement a few fixes as I can.

EDIT 2: If this happens again, check your console. You'll see a javascript error, paste that.

[Draco18s 2414]

I was intending to be nice ("the style is pretty meh, but this very helpful button is in the worst spot, OH GOD WHY CAN'T I START THREADS"), but I had to fight with the forums to even post, and my patience ran out.  It wasn't anger at Lex or the Forge team, it was anger at the forum software, just so we're clear.  You can actually see my opinion degrade and my anger rise as my opening post goes on.  Erf.

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The base text area is intended to be hidden, as the javascript editor inserts content into it dynamically.

I thought so, but I couldn't find anything that would have blocked said editor from doing its "thing" even after I disabled Ghostery, Greasemonkey, and Stylish.

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EDIT 2: If this happens again, check your console. You'll see a javascript error, paste that.

Errors... lets find out....

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too much recursion
http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/uploads/javascript_global/root_library.js.bd79000e02ea5f9fade63ca8de9e8ef6.js?v=3830a0930f
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[Denyol 0]

I love it...

[OreCruncher 7]

My first impression was too much white space on the page.  Is there a theme or setting somewhere more data can be packed into a display page?

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

5 hours ago, OreCruncher said:

My first impression was too much white space on the page.  Is there a theme or setting somewhere more data can be packed into a display page?

Yea I think we can probably get things a bit more concise - I'm focusing on breaking issues right now though. Once we get everything (like permissions and the explicitly broken pages on iPad fixed) then we'll start working through overall design.

[MoeBoy76 20]

Only issue for me so far is the fact that on mobile (iPhone 7, latest iOS, Firefox) there is no difference between unread and read, i thought it was a bug when i checked on my PC cos i had actually read all threads but then found an undread one

 

tl;dr unread = read on mobile theme

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

Interesting, since there's no difference between themes. It's a responsive design - we'll look into it but it's likely just a transient cache issue with read vs unread.

[Draco18s 2414]

Just discovered that I can't view spoiler sections. They just don't open.

(No apparent JS errors)

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

Spoiler

Test

 

Testing spoilers :]

 

New ones are working - can you link me to one that isn't?

[Draco18s 2414]

That one isn't.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7950499/2017-02-03 22-53-11.mp4

[Draco18s 2414]

"Jump to new post" doesn't always jump me to the newest post, but rather the bottom of the page.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7950499/2017-02-04 20-11-03.mp4

 

While that time there was only 1 new post, the last time I checked that thread there were at least three and I still ended up at the bottom of the page.

[Draco18s 2414]

Nested quotes are impossible to read (where does one quote start and the next one end?)

Example:

(Preview does not show the quotes)

 

 

[Draco18s 2414]

We lost the TeleType bbcode tag that would display in-line code segments, eg. TileEntity#getCapability

 

We can do code still:

But it's only good for large blocks and won't render in-line

There is the font tag to fake it; e.g. this should be monospaced. But it's harder to get at (have to type it manually, the rich text editor toolbar does not have a font selection dropdown).
 

 

Here's an old post that used [tt] (link preview doesn't render the post the same here either; seems it strips the code-block and renders the text inline and not monospaced (???))

 

Yep, code blocks are completely stripped in link previews:

Also the post-preview button doesn't work for me.

 

Testing if the nobbc tag still works.

[nobbc]This should not be italicised at all[/nobbc]

Nope.

Edited February 5, 2017 by Draco18s

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

So maybe something like this right here?

 

Added the "tt" button to the toolbar, along with the font tag and remove formatting buttons. Just highlight and hit the "tt" button for a shortcut to monospaced font.

 

Should be noted that this does not use a bbcode editor - it converts all bbcode to HTML, so the idea of [nobbc] is moot. bbcode conversion is only for legacy and compatibility with other packages. Basically, for us old farts that like it.

[Choonster 1651]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Flamegoat said:

So maybe something like this right here?

 

Added the "tt" button to the toolbar, along with the font tag and remove formatting buttons. Just highlight and hit the "tt" button for a shortcut to monospaced font.

 

Should be noted that this does not use a bbcode editor - it converts all bbcode to HTML, so the idea of [nobbc] is moot. bbcode conversion is only for legacy and compatibility with other packages. Basically, for us old farts that like it.

 

Would it be possible to convert the [tt] tags in all the old posts to monospace font instead of code blocks? Having the [tt] tag work in new posts would also be more convenient than having to highlight the text and click a button.

 

Most of my old posts are borderline unreadable because each section of inline code has been replaced with a code block.

Edited February 6, 2017 by Choonster

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

No, byproduct of the migration. Old posts don't have [tt], they've been converted to HTML.

[Draco18s 2414]

18 hours ago, Mr. Flamegoat said:

So maybe something like this right here?

When I tried it, it hadn't worked.

[tt]Now it does. Hopefully[/tt]

Do I have to use the button...?

Yes, apparently.   And it still parses interior BBCode, which is going to wreck teletype on array usage...

You know, array.whatever

 

Yep. It italicised the rest of the post....obligatory end-italics. 

 

Also, preview and spoilers are still broked.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Draco18s

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

7 hours ago, Draco18s said:

When I tried it, it hadn't worked.

[tt]Now it does. Hopefully[/tt]

Do I have to use the button...?

Yes, apparently.   And it still parses interior BBCode, which is going to wreck teletype on array usage...

You know, array.whatever

 

Yep. It italicised the rest of the post....obligatory end-italics. 

 

Also, preview and spoilers are still broked.

Spoilers working fine here - preview too.

Not sure what you mean by broked?

[Draco18s 2414]

I mean I still can't use them:

On 2/3/2017 at 10:54 PM, Draco18s said:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7950499/2017-02-03 22-53-11.mp4

 

I click on them and nothing happens. Watch the video.

 

I also just noticed that we lost the ability to have signatures.  Awesome.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Draco18s

[Leomelonseeds 28]

Oh yes. I don't like that either.

And why do you still use windows 7?

Edited February 11, 2017 by Leomelonseeds

[Guest Mr. Flamegoat]

On 2/7/2017 at 2:49 PM, Draco18s said:

I mean I still can't use them:

 

I click on them and nothing happens. Watch the video.

 

I also just noticed that we lost the ability to have signatures.  Awesome.

No you didn't, go turn them on. Sigs are old, archaic, spammy, and slow in many cases, so they're off by default. I'm not a fan of distractions and advertising that I don't control to unsuspecting youngsters getting started with modded Minecraft, which is what a lot of people use them for. Also, I'm working out a few bugs to prevent youtube vids from showing up (they do at the moment).

 

Account Settings -> Signatures -> View Signatures -> Toggle to on.

 

Until I sanitize them correctly and put strict rules to outside linking, advertising and such in place they'll remain off by default. As you can imagine, during the migration, I saw a lot of things that made me pretty unhappy and quite grumpy. I figure if you choose to turn them on currently, that's disclaimer enough.

[Draco18s 2414]

Ah, so they are still there. I'd gone looking and somehow failed to find it.

 

And no worries about leaving them off by default.

 

Also I figured out the JS problems I was having. Merely having a Greasemonkey script active on the URL breaks spoilers, preview, and new topic stuff. A blank greasemonkey script.

 

I had one to nuke an image out of someone's sig (I didn't mind signatures except that one image) and there's no reason for a GM script to interfere like that, especially one that has @grant: none.